I'm late....
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Bucking the trend here, timesheets are one of the many psychological tools to own you. One of the only potential use is for billing on gov't projects if you're working on more than one. Otherwise, s*** the man - you're salaried, right? (Though if you can accrue overtime in the classic sense, maybe not?) If salaried, put down 8 hours, no matter what you do. The irony to that is, that's exactly what I've been told by management -- the system (and managers) can't handle less than or more than 8. If you're hourly, who the frack cares? You're getting paid for the work you do when you do it.
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Bucking the trend here, timesheets are one of the many psychological tools to own you. One of the only potential use is for billing on gov't projects if you're working on more than one. Otherwise, s*** the man - you're salaried, right? (Though if you can accrue overtime in the classic sense, maybe not?) If salaried, put down 8 hours, no matter what you do. The irony to that is, that's exactly what I've been told by management -- the system (and managers) can't handle less than or more than 8. If you're hourly, who the frack cares? You're getting paid for the work you do when you do it.
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Fun Exploring Div and Table UI LayoutExactly, as long as the work gets done who cares.
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has development really changed that much since I've been gone? I never punched a clock at work the entire time i was in the field.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
Well I have always used if the work gets done all is good. However the attitude of those higher up is if the work is not done in regular chunks someone is being lazy... :sigh: (parent company does not do technology)
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Well I have always used if the work gets done all is good. However the attitude of those higher up is if the work is not done in regular chunks someone is being lazy... :sigh: (parent company does not do technology)
ugh, i hate those situations. Parent companies make better customers than they do management.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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has development really changed that much since I've been gone? I never punched a clock at work the entire time i was in the field.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
As someone who writes code for other people (now commercial, govt at a prior job); my bosses need a timesheet so they know how much to bill our customers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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As someone who writes code for other people (now commercial, govt at a prior job); my bosses need a timesheet so they know how much to bill our customers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
That makes sense. I did keep track of my hours when I was contracting, but i never kept track of times, just dates. Nobody ever asked for more than that from me.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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That makes sense. I did keep track of my hours when I was contracting, but i never kept track of times, just dates. Nobody ever asked for more than that from me.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
my time sheets have always been in the form of just a day/billing code grid with space for a free form comment. So Wednesday 5h on project A, 3h on project B. But not worked on A from 8-9:15, 10:40-11:20, 13:10-14:25, 14:30:16:20, and B from 9:15-10:40, 11:20-12:05, 13:05-13:10, 14:25-14:30, and 16:20-17:00. X|
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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my time sheets have always been in the form of just a day/billing code grid with space for a free form comment. So Wednesday 5h on project A, 3h on project B. But not worked on A from 8-9:15, 10:40-11:20, 13:10-14:25, 14:30:16:20, and B from 9:15-10:40, 11:20-12:05, 13:05-13:10, 14:25-14:30, and 16:20-17:00. X|
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dan Neely wrote:
my time sheets have always been in the form of just a day/billing code grid with space for a free form comment.
That's what I'm familiar with. =)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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As someone who writes code for other people (now commercial, govt at a prior job); my bosses need a timesheet so they know how much to bill our customers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
The joy of Government contracts being in chaos at the moment. As a company that used to do things who now rely on others, the worst part of it we have to account for every 15 minutes, so going over to the production and doing a quick test experiment to see if thing X does thing Y are a little hard to account for. We are run by accountants, I swear! I think the best comment was from the Drawing Office Manager "We were bought out by people that talk about work but don't do it'
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Hi All, Got to work late, sat down and am thinking about how to account for this. Being a dozy so & so I tend to fill in my timesheet early and put 8 hours for today, so do I do 8 hours today or 6 today and then 2 extra next week? or do I wait for the time when I have mucho work to do and just put in the time then and not claim over time? Trying to be honest about this! Opinions please, waste the time I owe or save it for the rush I can see coming (when I could accrue overtime)...
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The joy of Government contracts being in chaos at the moment. As a company that used to do things who now rely on others, the worst part of it we have to account for every 15 minutes, so going over to the production and doing a quick test experiment to see if thing X does thing Y are a little hard to account for. We are run by accountants, I swear! I think the best comment was from the Drawing Office Manager "We were bought out by people that talk about work but don't do it'
Ouch. We only had a 30m resolution at my last job and normally only track to that level at my new one which is coarse enough resolution that most nuisance items round down to 0 and we don't need to decide if a bathroom break should be charged to the project we wrapped up before getting up or the one started when we get back.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Hi All, Got to work late, sat down and am thinking about how to account for this. Being a dozy so & so I tend to fill in my timesheet early and put 8 hours for today, so do I do 8 hours today or 6 today and then 2 extra next week? or do I wait for the time when I have mucho work to do and just put in the time then and not claim over time? Trying to be honest about this! Opinions please, waste the time I owe or save it for the rush I can see coming (when I could accrue overtime)...
Stay and do the 8 hours. Don't submit false time sheets. I always told them I had car trouble. I was late getting in it. :)
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Stay and do the 8 hours. Don't submit false time sheets. I always told them I had car trouble. I was late getting in it. :)
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
Before we moved offices I could stay all night (I did once). Now I can't, the security Agents will terminate anyone on site after 6:00pm!
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Stay and do the 8 hours. Don't submit false time sheets. I always told them I had car trouble. I was late getting in it. :)
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
Me too, took them 3 years to realise I didn't have a car! :laugh:
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Now you have an answer to Bill Woodruff's question of what if you could time travel!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
If I could I wouldn't waste it on today, just interested to see what the opinion was.
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Hi All, Got to work late, sat down and am thinking about how to account for this. Being a dozy so & so I tend to fill in my timesheet early and put 8 hours for today, so do I do 8 hours today or 6 today and then 2 extra next week? or do I wait for the time when I have mucho work to do and just put in the time then and not claim over time? Trying to be honest about this! Opinions please, waste the time I owe or save it for the rush I can see coming (when I could accrue overtime)...
I view the nominal forty hours per week as an average and certainly not a minimum. I may work 36 hours this week but I will work 44 or 50 hours per week soon enough. I really don't sweat it and neither do "they" as long as things get done in a timely fashion. The good thing is we are our own customer - all our work is done for internal use. That has its bad aspects but they are minimal compared to the benefits.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
