Democratic Party has ZERO candidates/chance to take 2020 win
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Biden can't even remember who he is or where he is at half the time and according to recent polls, he is the leading contender. Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice) has serious Pancreatic Cancer, might be inoperable. Another potential seat for the Republicans? Of course, it is. The thought has occurred to me that this is by design. I mean, when was the last time that the Democratic Party did not have a good contender for President? Are you telling me that in the entire United States there is not one person that can beat Trump? At this rate, Trump has a clear win for 2020. :laugh:
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Biden can't even remember who he is or where he is at half the time and according to recent polls, he is the leading contender. Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice) has serious Pancreatic Cancer, might be inoperable. Another potential seat for the Republicans? Of course, it is. The thought has occurred to me that this is by design. I mean, when was the last time that the Democratic Party did not have a good contender for President? Are you telling me that in the entire United States there is not one person that can beat Trump? At this rate, Trump has a clear win for 2020. :laugh:
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Biden can't even remember who he is or where he is at half the time and according to recent polls, he is the leading contender. Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice) has serious Pancreatic Cancer, might be inoperable. Another potential seat for the Republicans? Of course, it is. The thought has occurred to me that this is by design. I mean, when was the last time that the Democratic Party did not have a good contender for President? Are you telling me that in the entire United States there is not one person that can beat Trump? At this rate, Trump has a clear win for 2020. :laugh:
Is that today's church lesson.
Slacker007 wrote:
At this rate, Trump has a clear win for 2020
Assume 'the chosen one' won the next term, then the Red Sea will be closed. :-\
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Biden can't even remember who he is or where he is at half the time and according to recent polls, he is the leading contender. Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice) has serious Pancreatic Cancer, might be inoperable. Another potential seat for the Republicans? Of course, it is. The thought has occurred to me that this is by design. I mean, when was the last time that the Democratic Party did not have a good contender for President? Are you telling me that in the entire United States there is not one person that can beat Trump? At this rate, Trump has a clear win for 2020. :laugh:
Which is a clear loss for the rest of the world :sigh:
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Which is a clear loss for the rest of the world :sigh:
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Which is a clear loss for the rest of the world
Why? What policies from the right are so bad and what policies from the left are so good?
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Which is a clear loss for the rest of the world :sigh:
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Name 5 examples of how Trump is bad for the rest of the world.
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Name 5 examples of how Trump is bad for the rest of the world.
His climate policy, because climate isn't limited to just the US. His trade wars, because trade isn't limited to just the US. His polarizing comments, tweets and speeches, because as a world leader he influences people all over the world. His childish behavior, making collaboration with other countries difficult. I guess one pro to his chaotic "leadership" is that other countries have sought collaboration with each other to not have to deal with Trump. Other populist leaders around the world have quickly lost following since Trump became president because no other country in the world wants such an idiot as president. And everyone seems to try a bit harder because Trump obviously isn't. If anything good comes from Trump it's despite, not thanks to.
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His climate policy, because climate isn't limited to just the US. His trade wars, because trade isn't limited to just the US. His polarizing comments, tweets and speeches, because as a world leader he influences people all over the world. His childish behavior, making collaboration with other countries difficult. I guess one pro to his chaotic "leadership" is that other countries have sought collaboration with each other to not have to deal with Trump. Other populist leaders around the world have quickly lost following since Trump became president because no other country in the world wants such an idiot as president. And everyone seems to try a bit harder because Trump obviously isn't. If anything good comes from Trump it's despite, not thanks to.
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You are blind. You need to read between the lines and not the media's headlines. Trump is not perfect, and that is the magic to it all. He does not say the correct things, he does not carry himself well, and he is very immature - all true statements. We did not vote for Trump because we like him as a person; we voted for him because countries should be sovereign and not beholden to another country, among other reasons. China and Globalism are the two most important enemies of the world today, not Trump. If his words hurt your feelings or rub you the wrong way, then he is doing his job correctly. Socialism, communism, global unions, are not the answer.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Which is a clear loss for the rest of the world
Why? What policies from the right are so bad and what policies from the left are so good?
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See my reply to Slacker007 below. Compare that to Obama, who cared about people, climate and collaboration. Although he's also "the war president" so I don't know :laugh: At least he had less of a negative impact for his allies (and you might even say a positive impact).
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You are blind. You need to read between the lines and not the media's headlines. Trump is not perfect, and that is the magic to it all. He does not say the correct things, he does not carry himself well, and he is very immature - all true statements. We did not vote for Trump because we like him as a person; we voted for him because countries should be sovereign and not beholden to another country, among other reasons. China and Globalism are the two most important enemies of the world today, not Trump. If his words hurt your feelings or rub you the wrong way, then he is doing his job correctly. Socialism, communism, global unions, are not the answer.
Trumps words cause actual deaths (luckily mostly in the US). I know you don't believe it, but words never aren't "just words". Words influence people to actions, which in Trumps case is mass shootings, racism and intolerance (even though he's the "least racist person ever"). We have a politician like that too, and I even voted for him some ten years ago, but he never got as big as Trump. They're both pretty polarizing though (ours famously said "do we want more or less Moroccans!?", to which the answer, obviously, was less, making it difficult for the majority of good and hard working Moroccans). You're saying Globalism is the enemy, but thanks to Globalism you can pretty much live the way you do. Because of Globalism you can sip your French wine, eat your Dutch cheese, eat your Italian pizza, buy your (overpriced, but cheaply produced) iPhones, ship your trash to Asia, etc. I live in a country without any natural resources and we literally couldn't live without foreign trade. Globalism just made it all a lot easier. Trust me, when Trump has alienated everyone, and the USA stands alone, you won't be so great. That said, China is pretty scary, so we agree on that. Except I don't think making them your enemy is the best course of action (they could literally destroy America, but thanks to Globalism they won't as they'd get themselves in the process). I know people can do awesome things if they work together, but Trump just frustrates every sort of cooperation. And, unfortunately, that seems to be the global tendency. I'm not saying we don't have problems, I'm just saying Trump doesn't solve them and makes them worse, as we can't really live without each other.
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Trumps words cause actual deaths (luckily mostly in the US). I know you don't believe it, but words never aren't "just words". Words influence people to actions, which in Trumps case is mass shootings, racism and intolerance (even though he's the "least racist person ever"). We have a politician like that too, and I even voted for him some ten years ago, but he never got as big as Trump. They're both pretty polarizing though (ours famously said "do we want more or less Moroccans!?", to which the answer, obviously, was less, making it difficult for the majority of good and hard working Moroccans). You're saying Globalism is the enemy, but thanks to Globalism you can pretty much live the way you do. Because of Globalism you can sip your French wine, eat your Dutch cheese, eat your Italian pizza, buy your (overpriced, but cheaply produced) iPhones, ship your trash to Asia, etc. I live in a country without any natural resources and we literally couldn't live without foreign trade. Globalism just made it all a lot easier. Trust me, when Trump has alienated everyone, and the USA stands alone, you won't be so great. That said, China is pretty scary, so we agree on that. Except I don't think making them your enemy is the best course of action (they could literally destroy America, but thanks to Globalism they won't as they'd get themselves in the process). I know people can do awesome things if they work together, but Trump just frustrates every sort of cooperation. And, unfortunately, that seems to be the global tendency. I'm not saying we don't have problems, I'm just saying Trump doesn't solve them and makes them worse, as we can't really live without each other.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Trumps words cause actual deaths (luckily mostly in the US). I know you don't believe it,
Of course we don't believe it. Because it's not true. :doh:
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See my reply to Slacker007 below. Compare that to Obama, who cared about people, climate and collaboration. Although he's also "the war president" so I don't know :laugh: At least he had less of a negative impact for his allies (and you might even say a positive impact).
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You didn't actually answer my question. I asked for leftists policies that are good and right policies that are bad.
Sander Rossel wrote:
Obama, who cared about people,
He sure did make people believe that.
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You didn't actually answer my question. I asked for leftists policies that are good and right policies that are bad.
Sander Rossel wrote:
Obama, who cared about people,
He sure did make people believe that.
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I can't really answer that for left and right as different people in the same group are wildly different. Not even the definition of left and right is fixed. For example, what we consider right in Europe is pretty much left in America. And your right is just medieval in Europe. The ones I mentioned below are Trump specific, being: ignoring climate change (or just more general environment policies), being polarizing, being uncollaborative and fighting trade wars. Although Bolsonaro, for example, is pretty much the same. Those are global issues that your elected official messes up that affect me. So for your average leftist the opposite is true. I'm not far right or far left, so I don't think immigrants should have special treatment or that we should drop everything to save the environment although we shouldn't disband them either. Both views are dangerous and damaging. I'm not familiar with any extreme left governments as most governments in the world are corrupt and oppressing (which isn't left nor right I guess). We have Wilders, who can be considered extreme right on his immigration views, but he's pretty darn left on his economic views. Ultimately, I think we shouldn't even be talking about left or right as they're pretty meaningless and polarizing. I don't think Trump is neither left nor right, he's a "Trumpist" (meaning he does whatever is necessary to help Trump at the expensive of everyone). So, to answer your question: Here are some policies that I think are good, that aren't implemented by the current American government: Fighting global warming and, more general, pollution. Collaborate on global issues such as trade, military and environmental issues. Respecting basic human rights regardless of gender, ethnicity and sexuality. Having an open and respectful conversation on perceived problems regarding minorities.
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I can't really answer that for left and right as different people in the same group are wildly different. Not even the definition of left and right is fixed. For example, what we consider right in Europe is pretty much left in America. And your right is just medieval in Europe. The ones I mentioned below are Trump specific, being: ignoring climate change (or just more general environment policies), being polarizing, being uncollaborative and fighting trade wars. Although Bolsonaro, for example, is pretty much the same. Those are global issues that your elected official messes up that affect me. So for your average leftist the opposite is true. I'm not far right or far left, so I don't think immigrants should have special treatment or that we should drop everything to save the environment although we shouldn't disband them either. Both views are dangerous and damaging. I'm not familiar with any extreme left governments as most governments in the world are corrupt and oppressing (which isn't left nor right I guess). We have Wilders, who can be considered extreme right on his immigration views, but he's pretty darn left on his economic views. Ultimately, I think we shouldn't even be talking about left or right as they're pretty meaningless and polarizing. I don't think Trump is neither left nor right, he's a "Trumpist" (meaning he does whatever is necessary to help Trump at the expensive of everyone). So, to answer your question: Here are some policies that I think are good, that aren't implemented by the current American government: Fighting global warming and, more general, pollution. Collaborate on global issues such as trade, military and environmental issues. Respecting basic human rights regardless of gender, ethnicity and sexuality. Having an open and respectful conversation on perceived problems regarding minorities.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
that aren't implemented by the current American government: Fighting global warming and, more general, pollution.
Pollution? We have more strict rules regarding pollution than most countries so I'm not sure what you've heard.
Sander Rossel wrote:
Collaborate on global issues such as trade, military and environmental issues.
Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?
Sander Rossel wrote:
Respecting basic human rights regardless of gender, ethnicity and sexuality.
I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.
Sander Rossel wrote:
Having an open and respectful conversation on perceived problems regarding minorities.
This is why left and right do matter. The left (in the US), for decades now, has been keeping racism alive because it's the only way they can get elected because they don't have any policies worthwhile. Most people in the US don't care about what race anyone is. The left (and our media is left so it's understandable why you think this is a problem in the US) keeps racism alive. But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
that aren't implemented by the current American government: Fighting global warming and, more general, pollution.
Pollution? We have more strict rules regarding pollution than most countries so I'm not sure what you've heard.
Sander Rossel wrote:
Collaborate on global issues such as trade, military and environmental issues.
Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?
Sander Rossel wrote:
Respecting basic human rights regardless of gender, ethnicity and sexuality.
I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.
Sander Rossel wrote:
Having an open and respectful conversation on perceived problems regarding minorities.
This is why left and right do matter. The left (in the US), for decades now, has been keeping racism alive because it's the only way they can get elected because they don't have any policies worthwhile. Most people in the US don't care about what race anyone is. The left (and our media is left so it's understandable why you think this is a problem in the US) keeps racism alive. But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?
There's a difference between meddling and collaborating.
ZurdoDev wrote:
I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.
I'm for abortion, just like billions of people. You, on the other hand, are in favor of having children suffer because they're unwanted.
ZurdoDev wrote:
because they don't have any policies worthwhile
Healthcare? Gun control? Pretty worthwhile policies (unless you're a conservative American I guess).
ZurdoDev wrote:
But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans
All these mass shooting of late are because of blatant racism (and guns video games). Perhaps you SHOULD make it an issue if it isn't :doh: Anyway, I really shouldn't take you serious on anything because you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Most countries complain about how much we are involved with the rest of the world and now you're suggesting we should get more involved?
There's a difference between meddling and collaborating.
ZurdoDev wrote:
I can't take you serious on this one since you have admitted to being OK with killing unwanted children.
I'm for abortion, just like billions of people. You, on the other hand, are in favor of having children suffer because they're unwanted.
ZurdoDev wrote:
because they don't have any policies worthwhile
Healthcare? Gun control? Pretty worthwhile policies (unless you're a conservative American I guess).
ZurdoDev wrote:
But it's not a day to day issue for most Americans
All these mass shooting of late are because of blatant racism (and guns video games). Perhaps you SHOULD make it an issue if it isn't :doh: Anyway, I really shouldn't take you serious on anything because you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?
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Sander Rossel wrote:
you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?
I see. I thought you were different than the others in the soapbox and could actually have an adult conversation. I guess not. See ya.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
you're all for child suffering so why not have everybody else suffer too?
I see. I thought you were different than the others in the soapbox and could actually have an adult conversation. I guess not. See ya.
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Just returning the favor :D It's not my style, but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing. So here's how that feels.
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Just returning the favor :D It's not my style, but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing. So here's how that feels.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Just returning the favor
How mature. :rolleyes:
Sander Rossel wrote:
but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing.
Not intentionally. I won't go find it but you even said that born unwanted children should be killed. I'm not sure how anyone can twist that.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Just returning the favor
How mature. :rolleyes:
Sander Rossel wrote:
but you keep twisting my words and coming back on the child killing.
Not intentionally. I won't go find it but you even said that born unwanted children should be killed. I'm not sure how anyone can twist that.
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I said that abortion should or could be possible up to a late stage, and as far as I'm concerned up to hours after the baby is born. At that point the parents should be completely sure whether they want it or not (especially when the baby is unhealthy) and the baby won't feel or know it. I also said how I saw moral issues with that and that up to about six months into pregnancy is far more acceptable and preferable. After birth, of course, I'd prefer orphanages or foster parents if possible (especially if those parents can't have children of their own). Basically, what I'm saying, is that aborting (or "killing", if you will) a baby is sometimes the more merciful option and if it prevents further suffering it should be an option. And it's certainly the better option to keep the world's population in check. That's a bit more nuanced than saying I'm a baby killer or want children dead.
ZurdoDev wrote:
How mature. :rolleyes:
Well, you started it :rolleyes: But seriously, I don't care if you agree with me or if you don't, but I'm not a baby killer and calling someone that doesn't get you in their "nice" book. Even if you vehemently disagree it's sometimes better to say "let's agree to disagree" instead of calling them a child killer that's an unfit parent and human being. I just thought I'd give you a taste by saying you like to see children suffer, which of course isn't true, but even then it's not nice to hear. So how about we forget about this and simply agree to disagree?
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Trumps words cause actual deaths (luckily mostly in the US). I know you don't believe it,
Of course we don't believe it. Because it's not true. :doh:
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Exactly. Sander is lost. :sigh:
