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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Have you looked here: Best Circular Saws 2019 - Reviews, Comparisons and Cutting Tests | Top Ten Reviews[^] Me? I'd go with the DeWalt - I've got a few of their power tools and they really are pretty good.
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Have you looked here: Best Circular Saws 2019 - Reviews, Comparisons and Cutting Tests | Top Ten Reviews[^] Me? I'd go with the DeWalt - I've got a few of their power tools and they really are pretty good.
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I looked at a lot of lists of 'Best...', and dropped the DeWalt because it labeled professional, and it seems to me waste to add for value (a $40-$50 to add) I probably never need...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
"It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Having owned various power tools over the years from both Skil (/Sher) and B&D, I'd definitely go with Skil. I still have and regularly use my 51+ year old Sher drill, and a somewhat less ancient circular saw. Cheers, Peter
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I looked at a lot of lists of 'Best...', and dropped the DeWalt because it labeled professional, and it seems to me waste to add for value (a $40-$50 to add) I probably never need...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I stopped buying "cheap" power tools a long time ago, partly because I bought a compressor so I buy air tools instead, but mostly because buying the expensive ones works out cheaper in the long run. I also prefer to buy "Industrial" equipment rather than consumer where I can - it's designed to do the job for longer instead of being replaced every couple of years. And because it's meant to last in an industrial setting it works forever under the light loads in a domestic environment.
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I stopped buying "cheap" power tools a long time ago, partly because I bought a compressor so I buy air tools instead, but mostly because buying the expensive ones works out cheaper in the long run. I also prefer to buy "Industrial" equipment rather than consumer where I can - it's designed to do the job for longer instead of being replaced every couple of years. And because it's meant to last in an industrial setting it works forever under the light loads in a domestic environment.
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I see your point here... There are a few problems... The local options are very poor (they import only tool with a large profit margin, so we have to most minimalist tools for full prize or very expensive professional tools). Technically there is no air tools - again only for very high prize... So I have to import myself, which doubles the prize (half for the tool and half for the delivery/custom). There is a point where the prize+deliver+custom will be so high that it renders the whole thing irrelevant (custom prizes are a grow with the original prize)... So I have to look very carefully what to pick, and for that I look for something that not labeled professional - therefor cheaper - but still pretty good... (It was the same with a DeWalt screwdriver and Makita jigsaw, both with me 8 and 10 years respectively)
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
I'm looking for POWER TOOLS.
I've been buying Milwuakee 18V tools unless I think mains powered is required. I have a drill driver, impact driver, reciprocating saw and torch that are 18v cordless. I have a rotary hammer drill for masonary and am eyeing off a cordless jigsaw and a 235mm mains powered circular saw. Cause you never klnow when you may need to up the power in your IT world. Plus I work for myself and in the past month have used most of these tools to get stuff done. The hammer drill and reciprocating saw were used for the first time in their almost 3 year existance and today I pulled out the Dremel (4200) and used it for the first time, reckon it's 3 years old too.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Black & Decker can be hit and miss, they sometimes sell use of their name to other manufacturers or distributors (often a combo of both), So not all B&D are the same (usually OK-ish but sometimes utter crap). OIOW name is only part of the story. Others do it too, DeWalt, Stanley... Usually in these cases the price is the warning, esp. if it looks to cheap for 'the name' "that saw looks just like this one, same brand, but costs only 1/4 the price and even comes with 2 free blades, why??" One's probably made in say China, the other in say USA / Germany / UK (yes UK make good tools too, just not many these days. Not just China, many German brands cheap lines often ex Poland (not as bad, China is definitely the king of crap but Poland / Hungary are Euro but they're not German quality.) Simple version/summary. Top quality is rarely on sale Could it be mid range on special? After checking the price check the "Made in"
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
I'm looking for POWER TOOLS.
I've been buying Milwuakee 18V tools unless I think mains powered is required. I have a drill driver, impact driver, reciprocating saw and torch that are 18v cordless. I have a rotary hammer drill for masonary and am eyeing off a cordless jigsaw and a 235mm mains powered circular saw. Cause you never klnow when you may need to up the power in your IT world. Plus I work for myself and in the past month have used most of these tools to get stuff done. The hammer drill and reciprocating saw were used for the first time in their almost 3 year existance and today I pulled out the Dremel (4200) and used it for the first time, reckon it's 3 years old too.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Not a single Milwuakee tool ships to here... :(
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
I'm looking for POWER TOOLS.
I've been buying Milwuakee 18V tools unless I think mains powered is required. I have a drill driver, impact driver, reciprocating saw and torch that are 18v cordless. I have a rotary hammer drill for masonary and am eyeing off a cordless jigsaw and a 235mm mains powered circular saw. Cause you never klnow when you may need to up the power in your IT world. Plus I work for myself and in the past month have used most of these tools to get stuff done. The hammer drill and reciprocating saw were used for the first time in their almost 3 year existance and today I pulled out the Dremel (4200) and used it for the first time, reckon it's 3 years old too.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
My next door neighbor is a carpenter and makes a living from his battery-powered Milwaukee tools. He swears by them. Which makes me rather jealous: He can run a power tool off a battery all day (even with heavy use), whereas the best laptop battery I've ever had could barely last 3 hours. Which makes no sense to me.
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
It really depends on how much you intend to use and on what? Light duty, home owner stuff or really going to give it a work out? Soft wood, pines or hard wood? Why buy an expensive saw for light duty and if you're going for it spend the money and get a good one.
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It really depends on how much you intend to use and on what? Light duty, home owner stuff or really going to give it a work out? Soft wood, pines or hard wood? Why buy an expensive saw for light duty and if you're going for it spend the money and get a good one.
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It seems like twice a year (based on the cases when I had the need)... No real hard wood - way to expensive for the things I do... In the past I built a deck, some bookshelves, a twin bed, a kind of maze to the kids... stuffs like that...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I see your point here... There are a few problems... The local options are very poor (they import only tool with a large profit margin, so we have to most minimalist tools for full prize or very expensive professional tools). Technically there is no air tools - again only for very high prize... So I have to import myself, which doubles the prize (half for the tool and half for the delivery/custom). There is a point where the prize+deliver+custom will be so high that it renders the whole thing irrelevant (custom prizes are a grow with the original prize)... So I have to look very carefully what to pick, and for that I look for something that not labeled professional - therefor cheaper - but still pretty good... (It was the same with a DeWalt screwdriver and Makita jigsaw, both with me 8 and 10 years respectively)
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I mostly agree with Griff, but I understand your point. Tools come in roughly 4 categories. (mind that these categories glide into each other, so this is definitely not science) Home use: like Black&Decker. This is crap and should be avoided. Not even meant to last. Semi pro and Professional: Usually features the same brands (with the exception of DeWalt, Festtool and Milwaukee for example, they don't feature anything cheaper) But if you buy Makita, Hitachi, Metabo and similar you probably won't be disappointed. Watch out for Bosch, their green tools are crap for home use. Their blue tools are supposedly professional, but they're also unreliable. Heavy duty professional: This is the category where you usually haven't even heard about the brands, such as Atlas Copco. This is what they buy in factories where a broken tool is stopping up a whole line and thereby cost a fortune. I have a Hitachi myself, and it just works. Do consider putting in a few extra bucks on a plunge saw (also known as a track saw). They can do everything a circular saw can, but are safer and can do more.
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I've switched almost all of my power tools to the Ryobi 18V One+ system, and haven't regretted it a bit. I thought they'd be under-powered, compared to line powered gear, but I'm impressed. Yes, there are times when I dig out my ancient Skil saw, but it's been many years now...
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I love a bargin but take OG's and Mick's advice. Milwaukee and DeWalt are the best and you can get really good specials for skin only. I choose Milwaukee and have never looked back.
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Black & Decker can be hit and miss, they sometimes sell use of their name to other manufacturers or distributors (often a combo of both), So not all B&D are the same (usually OK-ish but sometimes utter crap). OIOW name is only part of the story. Others do it too, DeWalt, Stanley... Usually in these cases the price is the warning, esp. if it looks to cheap for 'the name' "that saw looks just like this one, same brand, but costs only 1/4 the price and even comes with 2 free blades, why??" One's probably made in say China, the other in say USA / Germany / UK (yes UK make good tools too, just not many these days. Not just China, many German brands cheap lines often ex Poland (not as bad, China is definitely the king of crap but Poland / Hungary are Euro but they're not German quality.) Simple version/summary. Top quality is rarely on sale Could it be mid range on special? After checking the price check the "Made in"
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I recall reading many years ago that Stanley Black & Decker bought DeWalt. It seems that SB&D has also absorbed many other names in the industry: Craftsman, Dewalt, and How all Stanley Black & Decker Tool Brands are Relatively Positioned (2019)[^]
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
The 15 amp Skil saw is promising to be able to pull more power than the 13 amp one, so it should be less likely to slow down in the middle of a cut. You will also need a 14 gauge extension cord to reduce the power loss as heat in the cord. (And don't keep the cord tightly wound up while it's being heated.)
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My next door neighbor is a carpenter and makes a living from his battery-powered Milwaukee tools. He swears by them. Which makes me rather jealous: He can run a power tool off a battery all day (even with heavy use), whereas the best laptop battery I've ever had could barely last 3 hours. Which makes no sense to me.
Because tools are supposed to be heavy - so a little extra battery is ok. Around here, we want one computer model, so it has to be light for the @#$%@#$ users. HP laptops we are getting generally start with close to a days life - downhill starts soon after.
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I've switched almost all of my power tools to the Ryobi 18V One+ system, and haven't regretted it a bit. I thought they'd be under-powered, compared to line powered gear, but I'm impressed. Yes, there are times when I dig out my ancient Skil saw, but it's been many years now...
Will Rogers never met me.
I agree. I had several B&D battery tools and they were underpowered and useless - and the batteries dies after just a few recharges. I started with a Ryobi drill and I now have a complete set of fairly powerful, reliable tools and lots of batteries none of which have died on me. Considering that Ryobi is pretty much Home Depot's "own brand" and are "consumer standard" they seem to work surprisingly well.
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I'm looking for a simple, but reliable circular saw... Was thinking of the SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide... After searching for it on Amazon got this an offer for BLACK+DECKER 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Laser, 13-Amp... These are really the same category? If so why the prize difference? Any suggestions about theses or any other?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I do a fair bit of home renovation and odd jobs for others. My advice is to buy the best you can justify spending. If $50 buys a better tool, then spend it - you won't regret it. I used to purchase "bargain" tools but got frustrated because they wore out in the middle of projects, or produced dubious results. For my money I'd avoid B&D as they just don't last.
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