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  • D dandy72

    That's...the darkest thing I've ever read coming from you, Bill. I did not expect this.

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    William Blake, The Four Zoas: Night the Eighth:

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    “All futurity seems teeming with endless destruction never to be repelled; Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage.”

    «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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    • R RickZeeland

      That sounds a bit like the speech by John Cleese at Graham Chapmans funeral: Graham Chapman's Eulogy by John Cleese - YouTube[^] :doh:

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      I love what they did to the urn that (aledgedly) contained his ashes at Robert Kleins interview in Aspen in '98: Short version[^] Longer version[^] Completely hilarious! :laugh:

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      • B BillWoodruff

        Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:

        «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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        For people who are truly depressed in this season, suicide may seem a viable option. I don't see anything humorous in that!

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        • B BillWoodruff

          'Yes, like this: [^]

          «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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          BillWoodruff wrote:

          this: [^]

          For those who don't speak Dutch, "Gevaarlijk Goed", in this context, means either "Perilously Pretentious" or something that ends with a p*. * No, I don't mean a six-pack

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • B BillWoodruff

            Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:

            «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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            jeron1
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            BillWoodruff wrote:

            New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway

            Aww, you optimist you.

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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            • B BillWoodruff

              William Blake, The Four Zoas: Night the Eighth:

              Quote:

              “All futurity seems teeming with endless destruction never to be repelled; Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage.”

              «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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              BillWoodruff wrote:

              William Blake, The Four Zoas: Night the Eighth:

              Quote:

              “All futurity seems teeming with endless destruction never to be repelled; Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage.”

              To which John Flaxman replied:

              Quote:

              Anyway, Bill, 'ow ya been keepin'?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • B BillWoodruff

                Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:

                «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                Du Perron wrote (part of some forgotten Dutch poem):

                Because suicide, Lord, is difficult, does not always want to succeed, Cleopatra and the adder were both strong, the poison of Mithradates made him vomit anxiously, a slave with a good sword completed the work. A suicide is assured until the choice of the weapon. Death is more friendly, perhaps, in the accidents who grieve the good citizen daily: the motorcyclist who broke into pieces, the driver by two locomotives crushed because he was just napping. The bricklayer who fell from the ladder, whose head struck the boulders into an omelet, and the worker pulled into a machine, who, before they had stopped one wheel, had been ejected again as a careless mince. The little girls who shot through the ice whose cry of death froze into a stream of stream and whose corpses no one dived to, the child from the slum that carelessly with boiling water, over and over again. Certainly, death is more friendly to the poor people, they die more easily, are more familiar with him. He gives them smiles, winks and tips, the fear of what is often seen diminishes. Death seems almost a goal for those who work themselves dead. Death is the companion of the long winter months, dutifully, like them, for the poor on the land. They calmly carry on, they scatter new seeds, and calm, like a wildflower by a child's hand, he plucks a toiler away from the plowed earth. The drunken vagabond, laughing while drooling, and drooling and laughing under a full train, the blind beggar, too old to die, who breaks his neck without pain on a heroic night, it is worth not looking at such a death. The really hard death descends into feather beds, and is long and heavy against a soft chest, and kiss a soft mouth to stop it, and squeezes a soft throat that becomes tight and glowing, and listens to the heart that continues to resist.

                I disagree with the more famous Albert Hammond; I would prefer a freeway crash over a long sick-bed.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Ah. You felt like a Stranger in a Strange Land?

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                  Maybe he just isn't a people person??? :~

                  I, for one, like Roman Numerals.

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                  • B BillWoodruff

                    Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:

                    «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                    I was feeling down on Christmas Day and I called the Depression Hot Line. I got a call centre in Pakistan! I told them I was suicidal... They got all excited and asked if I knew how to drive a truck! :laugh:

                    I, for one, like Roman Numerals.

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      Ah now that is just disappointing, I got all excited that someone had finally made a film of that particular classic.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                      Isn't it crazy SIASL has never been made into a movie, or tv series ? I read the SyFy channel was going to do it, years ago. Another SF classic that I think could be great on film is LeGuin's "Left Hand of Darkness."

                      «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                      • D DRHuff

                        I was feeling down on Christmas Day and I called the Depression Hot Line. I got a call centre in Pakistan! I told them I was suicidal... They got all excited and asked if I knew how to drive a truck! :laugh:

                        I, for one, like Roman Numerals.

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                        Johnny J
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                        They didn't send you a nice vest full of marcipan for Christmas to cheer you up? :-\

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                        • D dandy72

                          That's...the darkest thing I've ever read coming from you, Bill. I did not expect this.

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          I... had the exact same thought. Rather out of character for Bill. @BillWoodruff ^

                          Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                          • B BillWoodruff

                            Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:

                            «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                            Marco Bertschi
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                            I can understand that this may seem funny for some, but as someone who spends time as voluntary firefighter I'm speaking to those who may think about committing suicide: Don't. Contact someone, be it someone you know or a suicide hotline. Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule but also but a strain on other peoples mental health: be it accidental witnesses, train drives, first responders and so on. I'm not part of the group who recovers people from beneath trains, and quite frankly I'm glad about that. I am, however, part of the lake search and rescue group, and trying to recover someone who went swimming without the intention to come back in icy january conditions is beyond a bad experience. So, kids, here's the takeaway: Don't commit suicide, talk to someone - friends, family, helplines, 112, 911 - they'll be happy to help you and work out a solution. If you're suffering from a terminal illness, go with Exit, Dignitas or any other organization. And last but not least: Don't encourage suicide, online or in real life if the person hasn't a terminal condition - Studies have proven that after public coverage of suicides the rate tends to go up. /Edit: some things became less clear in writing as they were in my head, see my answer to Eddy's post as there are somethings written out more clear.

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                              I can understand that this may seem funny for some, but as someone who spends time as voluntary firefighter I'm speaking to those who may think about committing suicide: Don't. Contact someone, be it someone you know or a suicide hotline. Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule but also but a strain on other peoples mental health: be it accidental witnesses, train drives, first responders and so on. I'm not part of the group who recovers people from beneath trains, and quite frankly I'm glad about that. I am, however, part of the lake search and rescue group, and trying to recover someone who went swimming without the intention to come back in icy january conditions is beyond a bad experience. So, kids, here's the takeaway: Don't commit suicide, talk to someone - friends, family, helplines, 112, 911 - they'll be happy to help you and work out a solution. If you're suffering from a terminal illness, go with Exit, Dignitas or any other organization. And last but not least: Don't encourage suicide, online or in real life if the person hasn't a terminal condition - Studies have proven that after public coverage of suicides the rate tends to go up. /Edit: some things became less clear in writing as they were in my head, see my answer to Eddy's post as there are somethings written out more clear.

                              I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.

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                              Marco Bertschi wrote:

                              Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule

                              People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.

                              Marco Bertschi wrote:

                              if the person hasn't a terminal condition

                              So, only allowed for the terminal eh? Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain. I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule

                                People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.

                                Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                if the person hasn't a terminal condition

                                So, only allowed for the terminal eh? Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain. I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Marco Bertschi
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                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain

                                I'm sorry if I misused the term "terminal" - I meant to include those. In my head, that all sounds pretty terminal, though.

                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.

                                A single phone call doesn't solve anything, but it may be good start to get better (for some, at least - Not for everyone, I know that). Apart from that, if someone is seriously thinking about ending their life they are more than " a bit confused " (no judging here) - It's a serious condition, treatable for some for sure, but not for everyone. Anyways, any form of encouraging or judging suicide without knowing about the specific circumstances an individual is in my opinion plain wrong, an that is what I was aiming at with my previous post.

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                                  Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                  Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule

                                  People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.

                                  Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                  if the person hasn't a terminal condition

                                  So, only allowed for the terminal eh? Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain. I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                  People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.

                                  I know, I know... encouragement doesn't help either, though. I guess I just felt like I had to counter the grim, dark point of the OP.

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                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.

                                    I know, I know... encouragement doesn't help either, though. I guess I just felt like I had to counter the grim, dark point of the OP.

                                    I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.

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                                    Aight, good point :thumbsup:

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    • B BillWoodruff

                                      Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:

                                      «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                                      dandy72
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                                      To quote Bender from Futurama: [Do a flip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavUg17J2GU)!

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                                      • B BillWoodruff

                                        Isn't it crazy SIASL has never been made into a movie, or tv series ? I read the SyFy channel was going to do it, years ago. Another SF classic that I think could be great on film is LeGuin's "Left Hand of Darkness."

                                        «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                                        Ringworld, or better all the Known Space stories - done right, they could be superb.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Ringworld, or better all the Known Space stories - done right, they could be superb.

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          done right, they could be superb

                                          Aye, there's the rub. Animating a Puppeteer, with appropriate gait and motions, would be no mean trick. Hmm. Who would you want to play Louis Wu? Teela Brown? I assume Speaker-To-Animals would be CGI, so voice?

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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