To all those who failed to commit suicide on Xmas day
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William Blake, The Four Zoas: Night the Eighth:
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“All futurity seems teeming with endless destruction never to be repelled; Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage.”
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
BillWoodruff wrote:
William Blake, The Four Zoas: Night the Eighth:
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“All futurity seems teeming with endless destruction never to be repelled; Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage.”
To which John Flaxman replied:
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Anyway, Bill, 'ow ya been keepin'?
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Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
Du Perron wrote (part of some forgotten Dutch poem):
Because suicide, Lord, is difficult, does not always want to succeed, Cleopatra and the adder were both strong, the poison of Mithradates made him vomit anxiously, a slave with a good sword completed the work. A suicide is assured until the choice of the weapon. Death is more friendly, perhaps, in the accidents who grieve the good citizen daily: the motorcyclist who broke into pieces, the driver by two locomotives crushed because he was just napping. The bricklayer who fell from the ladder, whose head struck the boulders into an omelet, and the worker pulled into a machine, who, before they had stopped one wheel, had been ejected again as a careless mince. The little girls who shot through the ice whose cry of death froze into a stream of stream and whose corpses no one dived to, the child from the slum that carelessly with boiling water, over and over again. Certainly, death is more friendly to the poor people, they die more easily, are more familiar with him. He gives them smiles, winks and tips, the fear of what is often seen diminishes. Death seems almost a goal for those who work themselves dead. Death is the companion of the long winter months, dutifully, like them, for the poor on the land. They calmly carry on, they scatter new seeds, and calm, like a wildflower by a child's hand, he plucks a toiler away from the plowed earth. The drunken vagabond, laughing while drooling, and drooling and laughing under a full train, the blind beggar, too old to die, who breaks his neck without pain on a heroic night, it is worth not looking at such a death. The really hard death descends into feather beds, and is long and heavy against a soft chest, and kiss a soft mouth to stop it, and squeezes a soft throat that becomes tight and glowing, and listens to the heart that continues to resist.
I disagree with the more famous Albert Hammond; I would prefer a freeway crash over a long sick-bed.
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Ah. You felt like a Stranger in a Strange Land?
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Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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Ah now that is just disappointing, I got all excited that someone had finally made a film of that particular classic.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
Isn't it crazy SIASL has never been made into a movie, or tv series ? I read the SyFy channel was going to do it, years ago. Another SF classic that I think could be great on film is LeGuin's "Left Hand of Darkness."
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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I was feeling down on Christmas Day and I called the Depression Hot Line. I got a call centre in Pakistan! I told them I was suicidal... They got all excited and asked if I knew how to drive a truck! :laugh:
I, for one, like Roman Numerals.
They didn't send you a nice vest full of marcipan for Christmas to cheer you up? :-\
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I... had the exact same thought. Rather out of character for Bill. @BillWoodruff ^
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Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
I can understand that this may seem funny for some, but as someone who spends time as voluntary firefighter I'm speaking to those who may think about committing suicide: Don't. Contact someone, be it someone you know or a suicide hotline. Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule but also but a strain on other peoples mental health: be it accidental witnesses, train drives, first responders and so on. I'm not part of the group who recovers people from beneath trains, and quite frankly I'm glad about that. I am, however, part of the lake search and rescue group, and trying to recover someone who went swimming without the intention to come back in icy january conditions is beyond a bad experience. So, kids, here's the takeaway: Don't commit suicide, talk to someone - friends, family, helplines, 112, 911 - they'll be happy to help you and work out a solution. If you're suffering from a terminal illness, go with Exit, Dignitas or any other organization. And last but not least: Don't encourage suicide, online or in real life if the person hasn't a terminal condition - Studies have proven that after public coverage of suicides the rate tends to go up. /Edit: some things became less clear in writing as they were in my head, see my answer to Eddy's post as there are somethings written out more clear.
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I can understand that this may seem funny for some, but as someone who spends time as voluntary firefighter I'm speaking to those who may think about committing suicide: Don't. Contact someone, be it someone you know or a suicide hotline. Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule but also but a strain on other peoples mental health: be it accidental witnesses, train drives, first responders and so on. I'm not part of the group who recovers people from beneath trains, and quite frankly I'm glad about that. I am, however, part of the lake search and rescue group, and trying to recover someone who went swimming without the intention to come back in icy january conditions is beyond a bad experience. So, kids, here's the takeaway: Don't commit suicide, talk to someone - friends, family, helplines, 112, 911 - they'll be happy to help you and work out a solution. If you're suffering from a terminal illness, go with Exit, Dignitas or any other organization. And last but not least: Don't encourage suicide, online or in real life if the person hasn't a terminal condition - Studies have proven that after public coverage of suicides the rate tends to go up. /Edit: some things became less clear in writing as they were in my head, see my answer to Eddy's post as there are somethings written out more clear.
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Marco Bertschi wrote:
Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule
People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.
Marco Bertschi wrote:
if the person hasn't a terminal condition
So, only allowed for the terminal eh? Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain. I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Marco Bertschi wrote:
Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule
People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.
Marco Bertschi wrote:
if the person hasn't a terminal condition
So, only allowed for the terminal eh? Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain. I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain
I'm sorry if I misused the term "terminal" - I meant to include those. In my head, that all sounds pretty terminal, though.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.
A single phone call doesn't solve anything, but it may be good start to get better (for some, at least - Not for everyone, I know that). Apart from that, if someone is seriously thinking about ending their life they are more than " a bit confused " (no judging here) - It's a serious condition, treatable for some for sure, but not for everyone. Anyways, any form of encouraging or judging suicide without knowing about the specific circumstances an individual is in my opinion plain wrong, an that is what I was aiming at with my previous post.
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Marco Bertschi wrote:
Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule
People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.
Marco Bertschi wrote:
if the person hasn't a terminal condition
So, only allowed for the terminal eh? Not for the incurably sick, or those whose life only consists of suffering or pain. I'm not encouraging it nor approving of it, but I will also not act as if these people are merely a bit confused and that a single phonecall will solve it all.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.
I know, I know... encouragement doesn't help either, though. I guess I just felt like I had to counter the grim, dark point of the OP.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
People will keep doing that, despite your warning; for one who wants to end their life, there is no clean alternative to that mess.
I know, I know... encouragement doesn't help either, though. I guess I just felt like I had to counter the grim, dark point of the OP.
I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.
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Don't let it get you down; after all, it's the thought that counts, and New Year's eve might be a better choice, anyway :omg:
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
To quote Bender from Futurama: [Do a flip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavUg17J2GU)!
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Isn't it crazy SIASL has never been made into a movie, or tv series ? I read the SyFy channel was going to do it, years ago. Another SF classic that I think could be great on film is LeGuin's "Left Hand of Darkness."
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
Ringworld, or better all the Known Space stories - done right, they could be superb.
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Ringworld, or better all the Known Space stories - done right, they could be superb.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
done right, they could be superb
Aye, there's the rub. Animating a Puppeteer, with appropriate gait and motions, would be no mean trick. Hmm. Who would you want to play Louis Wu? Teela Brown? I assume Speaker-To-Animals would be CGI, so voice?
Software Zen:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
done right, they could be superb
Aye, there's the rub. Animating a Puppeteer, with appropriate gait and motions, would be no mean trick. Hmm. Who would you want to play Louis Wu? Teela Brown? I assume Speaker-To-Animals would be CGI, so voice?
Software Zen:
delete this;Bring it up to date a little - more in keeping with the modern world - and make Louis Wu female: Dominique Tipper? Teela Brown? s a tricky one - I've always considered her as "young, blonde, and "cheerleader-ish", but I'm not au fait with actresses like that. Speaker is voice only, so ... Samuel L Jackson?
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Bring it up to date a little - more in keeping with the modern world - and make Louis Wu female: Dominique Tipper? Teela Brown? s a tricky one - I've always considered her as "young, blonde, and "cheerleader-ish", but I'm not au fait with actresses like that. Speaker is voice only, so ... Samuel L Jackson?
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Dominique Tipper
Wow she dresses down in Expanse.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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I can understand that this may seem funny for some, but as someone who spends time as voluntary firefighter I'm speaking to those who may think about committing suicide: Don't. Contact someone, be it someone you know or a suicide hotline. Throwing yourself under a train is a bad idea, you disrupt not only many commuters schedule but also but a strain on other peoples mental health: be it accidental witnesses, train drives, first responders and so on. I'm not part of the group who recovers people from beneath trains, and quite frankly I'm glad about that. I am, however, part of the lake search and rescue group, and trying to recover someone who went swimming without the intention to come back in icy january conditions is beyond a bad experience. So, kids, here's the takeaway: Don't commit suicide, talk to someone - friends, family, helplines, 112, 911 - they'll be happy to help you and work out a solution. If you're suffering from a terminal illness, go with Exit, Dignitas or any other organization. And last but not least: Don't encourage suicide, online or in real life if the person hasn't a terminal condition - Studies have proven that after public coverage of suicides the rate tends to go up. /Edit: some things became less clear in writing as they were in my head, see my answer to Eddy's post as there are somethings written out more clear.
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Takeaway No. 2 is: Don't take seriously what is not said seriously. Here are two of the main causes of suicide, particularly youth suicide: 1. Being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave. 2. Being ostracised for using words that others snobbishly decide to treat as offensive. So, if you want to set yourself up to look like someone who cares about preventing suicide, and who is therefore a Very Good Chap, you should avoid telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not behave, and also telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not speak.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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dandy72 wrote:
.the darkest thing I've ever read coming from you,
Hard to tell. Most of what he posts I don't understand anyway. It could all be dark for all I know. :laugh:
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Takeaway No. 2 is: Don't take seriously what is not said seriously. Here are two of the main causes of suicide, particularly youth suicide: 1. Being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave. 2. Being ostracised for using words that others snobbishly decide to treat as offensive. So, if you want to set yourself up to look like someone who cares about preventing suicide, and who is therefore a Very Good Chap, you should avoid telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not behave, and also telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not speak.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
you should avoid telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not behave, and also telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not speak.
I never said anyone _must_ behave the way I said. Merely voicing an opinion. Sorry, I'm not a native speaker.
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