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To all those who failed to commit suicide on Xmas day

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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    If you're switching genders on the characters: Louisa Wu: Katie Sackhoff Teller Brown: Tobey Maguire

    OriginalGriff wrote:

    Speaker is voice only, so ... Samuel L Jackson?

    Hmm. I was thinking a voice with a lower register, given Speaker's size. Idris Elba, perhaps. James Earl Jones would be good too. Aha! Vin Diesel. We also need a voice (if not an entire choir) for Nessus. Karen Carpenter would have been perfect, but she's long passed. The voice would probably have an effect with it, since Nessus speaks with both mouths at once in harmony.

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    Nessus: Sharon den Adel, and Mariah Carey simultaneously. The two sets of vocal chords (or puppeteer equivelant) probably wouldn't be the same tone, so one low register and one high register female speaking / singing the same words at the same time, or "entwining" them to melody perhaps?

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      Takeaway No. 2 is: Don't take seriously what is not said seriously. Here are two of the main causes of suicide, particularly youth suicide: 1. Being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave. 2. Being ostracised for using words that others snobbishly decide to treat as offensive. So, if you want to set yourself up to look like someone who cares about preventing suicide, and who is therefore a Very Good Chap, you should avoid telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not behave, and also telling people (including Bill) how they Must and Must Not speak.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Mark_Wallace wrote:

      Here are two of the main causes of suicide, particularly youth suicide:

      I firmly disagree, and would like to hear what study you based this statement on. Depression, substance abuse, family violence, or a lifetime of pain; whereas all the youth enjoys using words that their elders find offensive, and behaviour being modelled since you're raised. You cannot prevent all suicides; but we can prevent the messy ones and give those who would a dignified end. Still, that's not allowed - that's a choice we as a society make. Apparently, having the mess is preferable than to admit that sometimes the inevitable should not be postponed too long. My neighbours dog got his final meal two days ago, and he was too spent to even taste it. Heartbroken as my neighbours are, they didn't want another year of suffering for their dog. So why do humans have to? Is my life (and the decision) not our own?

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      • B BillWoodruff

        I appreciate the concern, but: what if I enjoy being whipped ?

        «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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        One of those, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me" folks? Party on. :thumbsup:

        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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          One of those, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me" folks? Party on. :thumbsup:

          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          But only if the wife allows.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            Mark_Wallace wrote:

            Here are two of the main causes of suicide, particularly youth suicide:

            I firmly disagree, and would like to hear what study you based this statement on. Depression, substance abuse, family violence, or a lifetime of pain; whereas all the youth enjoys using words that their elders find offensive, and behaviour being modelled since you're raised. You cannot prevent all suicides; but we can prevent the messy ones and give those who would a dignified end. Still, that's not allowed - that's a choice we as a society make. Apparently, having the mess is preferable than to admit that sometimes the inevitable should not be postponed too long. My neighbours dog got his final meal two days ago, and he was too spent to even taste it. Heartbroken as my neighbours are, they didn't want another year of suffering for their dog. So why do humans have to? Is my life (and the decision) not our own?

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            Is my life (and the decision) not our own?

            Yes but most often, the suicidal person is in a desperate state of mind, not a sober one. Therefore, one must not encourage rash decisions in that case.

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              Is my life (and the decision) not our own?

              Yes but most often, the suicidal person is in a desperate state of mind, not a sober one. Therefore, one must not encourage rash decisions in that case.

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

              Yes but most often, the suicidal person is in a desperate state of mind, not a sober one.

              Ah, you have statistics?

              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

              Therefore, one must not encourage rash decisions in that case.

              Such is rarely a rash impuls decision, whatever you tell yourself.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                But only if the wife allows.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                X|

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                  Here are two of the main causes of suicide, particularly youth suicide:

                  I firmly disagree, and would like to hear what study you based this statement on. Depression, substance abuse, family violence, or a lifetime of pain; whereas all the youth enjoys using words that their elders find offensive, and behaviour being modelled since you're raised. You cannot prevent all suicides; but we can prevent the messy ones and give those who would a dignified end. Still, that's not allowed - that's a choice we as a society make. Apparently, having the mess is preferable than to admit that sometimes the inevitable should not be postponed too long. My neighbours dog got his final meal two days ago, and he was too spent to even taste it. Heartbroken as my neighbours are, they didn't want another year of suffering for their dog. So why do humans have to? Is my life (and the decision) not our own?

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  Depression, substance abuse, family violence, or a lifetime of pain; whereas all the youth enjoys using words that their elders find offensive, and behaviour being modelled since you're raised.

                  I "would like to hear what study you based this statement on" (I won't go into detail about how making that demand of everyone one responds to is generally indicative of trollish behaviour). I'd also like you to define what you believe to be the causes of most instances of "Depression" and many of "substance abuse". I think you'll find that the two main causes are those given in my posting (I simply expressed them in a way that avoids overly emotional connotations), so "firmly disagreeing" with those statements equally firmly disagrees with your own. And that's not to mention that "family violence" falls very, very clearly under the heading of "being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave."

                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  we can prevent the messy ones and give those who would a dignified end. Still, that's not allowed

                  In whatever (I will resist saying "backward or fanatically religious") place you inhabit, that may be the case, but it is perfectly legal here -- I personally know two people with one parent each who has felt compelled to follow that route. I was not in a position to discuss their decision with either of them -- but discuss it is all I would have done; I most certainly would not have argued against it. And I think that it is entirely clear that I was talking of being ostracised by peers, on- and off-line.  Parents rarely ostracise their children for a psychologically harmful length of time. But how about we have a CP New Year's resolution not to discuss such bloody miserable topics in a forum "for those who code"?  Discussions of such matters between non-experts (i.e. those of "a little learning") are rarely useful or constructive.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    Depression, substance abuse, family violence, or a lifetime of pain; whereas all the youth enjoys using words that their elders find offensive, and behaviour being modelled since you're raised.

                    I "would like to hear what study you based this statement on" (I won't go into detail about how making that demand of everyone one responds to is generally indicative of trollish behaviour). I'd also like you to define what you believe to be the causes of most instances of "Depression" and many of "substance abuse". I think you'll find that the two main causes are those given in my posting (I simply expressed them in a way that avoids overly emotional connotations), so "firmly disagreeing" with those statements equally firmly disagrees with your own. And that's not to mention that "family violence" falls very, very clearly under the heading of "being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave."

                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    we can prevent the messy ones and give those who would a dignified end. Still, that's not allowed

                    In whatever (I will resist saying "backward or fanatically religious") place you inhabit, that may be the case, but it is perfectly legal here -- I personally know two people with one parent each who has felt compelled to follow that route. I was not in a position to discuss their decision with either of them -- but discuss it is all I would have done; I most certainly would not have argued against it. And I think that it is entirely clear that I was talking of being ostracised by peers, on- and off-line.  Parents rarely ostracise their children for a psychologically harmful length of time. But how about we have a CP New Year's resolution not to discuss such bloody miserable topics in a forum "for those who code"?  Discussions of such matters between non-experts (i.e. those of "a little learning") are rarely useful or constructive.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    (I won't go into detail about how making that demand of everyone one responds to is generally indicative of trollish behaviour).

                    Not making it of everyone, just you specifically; but thanks for your valuation.

                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    "being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave."

                    My English may be lacking, but this generic description is too broad for my taste.

                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    In whatever (I will resist saying "backward or fanatically religious") place you inhabit, that may be the case, but it is perfectly legal here

                    Near Amsterdam, which is hardly a fanatically religious location.

                    Mark_Wallace wrote:

                    But how about we have a CP New Year's resolution not to discuss such bloody miserable topics in a forum "for those who code"?

                    :thumbsup:

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      (I won't go into detail about how making that demand of everyone one responds to is generally indicative of trollish behaviour).

                      Not making it of everyone, just you specifically; but thanks for your valuation.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      "being forced by others to behave how one does not want to behave."

                      My English may be lacking, but this generic description is too broad for my taste.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      In whatever (I will resist saying "backward or fanatically religious") place you inhabit, that may be the case, but it is perfectly legal here

                      Near Amsterdam, which is hardly a fanatically religious location.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      But how about we have a CP New Year's resolution not to discuss such bloody miserable topics in a forum "for those who code"?

                      :thumbsup:

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                      Near Amsterdam

                      It's legal in Amsterdam :confused:

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                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        Near Amsterdam

                        It's legal in Amsterdam :confused:

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        No, for the majority it's not.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          No, for the majority it's not.

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                          "The majority" meaning those who use javascript, I presume.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            "The majority" meaning those who use javascript, I presume.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Whehe :D No, there's a lot of rules around it, to prevent abuse in various ways.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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