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Sorry, whats the problem with face detect for police use?

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    Just reading through an article on Amazon and mentions the rekognistion tool, and that some "civil right activists claim it could lead to wrongful arrests". Its a tool. Yes, I understand if someone dumb and just relies on a tool 100%, that is on the human misusing the tool. A human is still involved in the process. It probably took a long time for CCTV black/white video recordings and camera to be tolerated. But it always sounds like person recognition tools are far worse. My basic understanding: At a big stadium you can have police focused on more intensive tasks then tons scanning the crowd. You still have a few scanning the crowd. Face detect tool identifies someone of high interest. Info is directed to nearest officer to approach. Office now should handle the rest as if they spotted the person them self. End. If a wrongful arrest happens, that is the fault of the existing system in place. If the computer made a lock or release decision, then I would be against it. That is NOT what it is being used for. "oh, but their are cases where judges use machine-learning tools to make decisions". Again, that is a poor judge mis understanding how the tool should be used - weather that is lack of training or been trained in a missleading way by the sellers of the tool. Now let me use this to better detect my cat to allow into the house. I still have a 10% fail that the neighbors cat is being allowed in. both tabbies and I think its something to do with the lighting ;P

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    For the most part I have no qualms with data about me being obtained and used to verify fair use/behaviour/whatever, or allow me to use some service and the likes. What I do have a problem with is those data being stored anywhere that's accessible through the internet. Nowadays, no database is secure from getting hacked, and the data it contains is therefore potentially available for abuse of any kind. This problem gets real when data are obtained in large amounts: large amounts of data means large databases, and that makes it a high priority target for hackers. Not that any hacker may have interest in any of those records, but these data can be sold for a nice profit to those that have. You might say that it's a good thing the police can use these databases to help them find identify criminals. And I would concur. But, remember: the criminals typically have much better equipment and expertise on their hands than the police, they are not limited by legislation, and they have the option to obtain any data they want, provided it has been recorded somewhere. Therefore, for any criminal caught by the police with the help of such data, 10 innocent people are harmed by criminals using the very same data. I say, better not have that data in the first place. The crimes being prevented by not having these data stored anywhere would easily outnumber the crimes being prevented by criminals getting caught. tl;dr.: Cyber criminalty wouldn't exist without cyber data. Less data means less crimes.

    GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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