HELP, why do I keep getting this error..
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Yeah, used to happen to me back in my college days. We were assigned a group of 8 or so, and everyone is supposed to do their part. The problem was, in the whole group, there were maybe 2 or 3 person, tops, who could actually code. So when all the parts(codes/modules) were put together,we (the 2/3 person who could code) usually had to rewrite the other parts just to get everything working. We ended up doing more work than if we'd just worked alone.:mad::mad::mad: Nick Seng (the programmer formerly known as Notorious SMC)
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Nick Seng wrote: The problem was, in the whole group, there were maybe 2 or 3 person, tops, who could actually code. So when all the parts(codes/modules) were put together,we (the 2/3 person who could code) usually had to rewrite the other parts just to get everything working. We ended up doing more work than if we'd just worked alone. Exactly !! I'd rather he sat in a corner and didn't contribute rather than drag us down. Groups of 8 sound stupid to me. Even five seems big. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: I'm in a study group of 5 for a course I'm doing and one of the guys is a real idiot. You are lucky: on every single study group I was into, almost all the other guys were idiots. So, in every meeting of every group, I told the guys to sit, get a beer and had good laughs. Later, I did almost all the work in a few hours, told them to put some bells and whistles, so they felt that they really had an active involvement on the work, and delivered the work, letting the rest of the group take the credits on the work I did. That way, I kept a good relationship with my fellows in the classroom, and managed to graduate with good scores. Actually, after some time doing this, people started to dispute my participation on the groups, and the group average level continuously rose, so the bells and whistles kept getting better and better. Unfair? Yes, but life is unfair. Kant wrote: Actually she replied back to me "You shouldn't fix the bug. You should kill it"
mmmm, OK the other 3 want to contribute, I'm sure that I'd do better on my own, and use someone to do a final review before presentation. But I think I should let them have a chance to contribute and I quite enjoy how they listen to me etc, I get a warm feeling from helping them. On another assignment we are doing that lasts a year, I went way over the top in answering and solving the problems. So none of my colleagues really have a chance to understand it, and I doubt the Prof will be able to mark it on his own. ( I know that sounds arrogant but I'm doing the academic side of what I have been doing in practice for 20 yrs. So with any of the code based projects I can just pull out as many classes and code out of my old libraries modify a bit and I have completed a major project) :-) Daniel Turini wrote: Yes, but life is unfair A vida nao e justa mas com uma boa pinga tudo se resolve, nao e mesmo? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Yeah, used to happen to me back in my college days. We were assigned a group of 8 or so, and everyone is supposed to do their part. The problem was, in the whole group, there were maybe 2 or 3 person, tops, who could actually code. So when all the parts(codes/modules) were put together,we (the 2/3 person who could code) usually had to rewrite the other parts just to get everything working. We ended up doing more work than if we'd just worked alone.:mad::mad::mad: Nick Seng (the programmer formerly known as Notorious SMC)
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Nick Seng wrote: we (the 2/3 person who could code) usually had to rewrite the other parts just to get everything working. We ended up doing more work than if we'd just worked alone. Sounds to me like it was good training for real life :rolleyes: /me had a crappy day at work because of something just like this :-(
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Nick Seng wrote: The problem was, in the whole group, there were maybe 2 or 3 person, tops, who could actually code. So when all the parts(codes/modules) were put together,we (the 2/3 person who could code) usually had to rewrite the other parts just to get everything working. We ended up doing more work than if we'd just worked alone. Exactly !! I'd rather he sat in a corner and didn't contribute rather than drag us down. Groups of 8 sound stupid to me. Even five seems big. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Post-Grad-Diploma, to set me up for a twin Masters (fingers crossed) This time the group assignment is only worth 35% of the course. It's important though because I need to maintain an A average (min 80%) to get the other academic invitations I want. So if we score say 20 out of 35 it means for the rest I need to score 60 out of 65 individually. I'm lucky as I have an informal scholarship that covers my total fees and materials etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Then for your sake and the sake of the other team members it is probably best to have a quite word with the instructor. Just tell him/her you are concerned that said person is battling with the work. I always hated group tasks and the fact that someone elses problems can bugger you around but then that's life.
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:-) k, I'm in a study group of 5 for a course I'm doing and one of the guys is a real idiot. Ok team work demands that you help the weaker memebers of the team. But this guy seems to thick to realise he needs help and is infuriating everything. In the real world you generally have a leader of some sort and the buck stops there. But in these consensus based team environments you have to pander to the ideas of the weakest denominator. I can see it would be more efficient for the team if I fitted the guy up and got him booted from the course. Not moral but sensible. If I don't do this we are sure to get a lower mark. Any opinions ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: Any opinions ? Just ignore him and get the work done for the benefit of all. Keep in mind in a few years he may still be gratful to you. It is allways good to have a manager who likes your work. :rolleyes: "For as long as I can remember, I have had memories. Colin Mochrie."
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mmmm, OK the other 3 want to contribute, I'm sure that I'd do better on my own, and use someone to do a final review before presentation. But I think I should let them have a chance to contribute and I quite enjoy how they listen to me etc, I get a warm feeling from helping them. On another assignment we are doing that lasts a year, I went way over the top in answering and solving the problems. So none of my colleagues really have a chance to understand it, and I doubt the Prof will be able to mark it on his own. ( I know that sounds arrogant but I'm doing the academic side of what I have been doing in practice for 20 yrs. So with any of the code based projects I can just pull out as many classes and code out of my old libraries modify a bit and I have completed a major project) :-) Daniel Turini wrote: Yes, but life is unfair A vida nao e justa mas com uma boa pinga tudo se resolve, nao e mesmo? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: A vida nao e justa mas com uma boa pinga tudo se resolve, nao e mesmo? Com certeza! De preferência, pinga com limão! :) Kant wrote: Actually she replied back to me "You shouldn't fix the bug. You should kill it"
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:-) k, I'm in a study group of 5 for a course I'm doing and one of the guys is a real idiot. Ok team work demands that you help the weaker memebers of the team. But this guy seems to thick to realise he needs help and is infuriating everything. In the real world you generally have a leader of some sort and the buck stops there. But in these consensus based team environments you have to pander to the ideas of the weakest denominator. I can see it would be more efficient for the team if I fitted the guy up and got him booted from the course. Not moral but sensible. If I don't do this we are sure to get a lower mark. Any opinions ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Ahhh yes I see. So he is not receptive to your obviously superior intellect. There really should be a law.
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:-) k, I'm in a study group of 5 for a course I'm doing and one of the guys is a real idiot. Ok team work demands that you help the weaker memebers of the team. But this guy seems to thick to realise he needs help and is infuriating everything. In the real world you generally have a leader of some sort and the buck stops there. But in these consensus based team environments you have to pander to the ideas of the weakest denominator. I can see it would be more efficient for the team if I fitted the guy up and got him booted from the course. Not moral but sensible. If I don't do this we are sure to get a lower mark. Any opinions ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: Any opinions ? If he's willing to learn, train him. If he's not, boot him. Some lessons are harsher than others, and being tossed out of a course for being a pig-headed moron may be the lesson he needs to change his ways. You may, in fact, be doing him a great favor by doing so, if it forces him to re-evaluate his behavior and attitude before they cost him even more.
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:-) k, I'm in a study group of 5 for a course I'm doing and one of the guys is a real idiot. Ok team work demands that you help the weaker memebers of the team. But this guy seems to thick to realise he needs help and is infuriating everything. In the real world you generally have a leader of some sort and the buck stops there. But in these consensus based team environments you have to pander to the ideas of the weakest denominator. I can see it would be more efficient for the team if I fitted the guy up and got him booted from the course. Not moral but sensible. If I don't do this we are sure to get a lower mark. Any opinions ? Regardz Colin J Davies
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Dealing with idiots is the real purpose of this assignement. Daniela
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Dealing with idiots is the real purpose of this assignement. Daniela
Daniela123 wrote: Dealing with idiots is the real purpose of this assignement. Someone else actually suggested that. I find doing team work far harder than doing individual work. While I am a rebel at heart, Logic tells me that in a team environment I should be a team player to get the best results. And so I do. But dealing with idiotsis a pain. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Ahhh yes I see. So he is not receptive to your obviously superior intellect. There really should be a law.
alastairpearson wrote: Ahhh yes I see. So he is not receptive to your obviously superior intellect. Sure I do feel that way. I have been doing the practical side of this stuff for 20 plus years. But the other 3 students are kicking up far more fuss about it than me. Occasionally I do meet folk who I feel to be an intelectual maggot compared too. But at least I have the sense to realise it. (Some of those folk haunt CP as well) BTW: Do you ? :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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