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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    ...and I didn't use Algebra or Calculus once. Remind me why I spent so long learning them all those years ago? :laugh:

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    Gary R Wheeler
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    Hmm. I use algebra all the time. Calculus, never. I took 32 credit hours of 'advanced' math in college: calculus, differential equations, and matrix algebra. With only minor forays into matrix algebra when doing graphics, I haven't used any of it. Most of that space in my brain has been recycled for old movie lines. Much, much more useful.

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    • J John R Shaw

      There is a 2% chance that the next card will be a 2. I fold. There is a 100% chance I will have less money today than yesterday. There is a 2% local tax that is applied after all other taxes have been applied (taxes on taxes). But only if you are in an area where that applies; otherwise it is applied before other taxes are applied. Actually the last one was a while ago and a supersize. It is amazing how many ways a government comes up with to take your money. 1 part sugar 2 parts butter 4 parts flour Blast, I am out of tea.

      INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      John R. Shaw wrote:

      It is amazing how many ways a government comes up with to take your money

      ... and from which bodily orifices they will try to extract it.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        ...and I didn't use Algebra or Calculus once. Remind me why I spent so long learning them all those years ago? :laugh:

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Super Lloyd
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        for fun.. and developing your logical thinking? I mean maths is easy.. as long as your thinking is alright, which learning it does straighten it! ;P

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          ...and I didn't use Algebra or Calculus once. Remind me why I spent so long learning them all those years ago? :laugh:

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Member 12982558
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          well, when I was working/playing in the field of compilers (long time ago), some set theory was used, however, when designing the different algorithms for the various treewalks (lots of tree walks and list processing) at least one eye was on the big O. Especially for one pass load and go compilers speed was essential (and at that time computers were not that fast) but optimizations were more related to clever programming than algorithms (e.g. the design of a set representation strongly depends on what you want to do with the set and its elements). In my current (hobby) workingarea, software defined radio, both calculus and discrete mathematics are needed. Processing samples - with lots of fourier transforms and some laplace transformations for the filters - is basically calculus oriented. Of course one needs to look at performance: you do not want to miss too many samples, but handling performance is also here more an engineering issue than an algorithmic issue. Translating samples to bits and handling bits is - seen from a math position - different, viterbi decoding is a major component, as is Reed Solomon decoding, the latter using algebra (group theory). But also here, the final performance largely depends - next to selecting decent algorithms - on clever programming and decent engineering. But fortunately, for most of these "math" components there exists libraries (and one can write its own), But, the math, both the calculus and the discrete math, are basically fun to understand and it is always a learning experience to write a library component for it.

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          • R Rick York

            Either you ended up with a job that doesn't need them or you don't have one. I use them daily and stuff from just about every other math class I have ever had.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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            Rick York wrote:

            Either you ended up with a job that doesn't need them

            I'd like to turn that around since that seems to be the default. So you ended up with a job that does need them. Maybe you're being punished for something you did in a former life, I don't know :laugh:

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            • J John R Shaw

              There is a 2% chance that the next card will be a 2. I fold. There is a 100% chance I will have less money today than yesterday. There is a 2% local tax that is applied after all other taxes have been applied (taxes on taxes). But only if you are in an area where that applies; otherwise it is applied before other taxes are applied. Actually the last one was a while ago and a supersize. It is amazing how many ways a government comes up with to take your money. 1 part sugar 2 parts butter 4 parts flour Blast, I am out of tea.

              INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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              John R. Shaw wrote:

              ctually the last one was a while ago and a supersize. It is amazing how many ways a government comes up with to take your money.

              I don't think you should bring up stuff like trade tariffs until the SoapBox reopens.

              Ravings en masse^

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                ...and I didn't use Algebra or Calculus once. Remind me why I spent so long learning them all those years ago? :laugh:

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                OK - I get it - falling off to sleep whilst lustily counting sheep doesn't take calculus. However, algebra is really a representation of how we solve problems all day long that have any sort of calculation. It's done as a background process. Now how far goes? Well - do you use all the subtleties of programming you were supposed to learn? Probably not, but you will still claim to have coded (at least in Q&A). Sorry if you lost count of the sheep - there go your Welsh Pub bragging rights . . . unless you can exploit 'lost count' in an implied context..

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  Rick York wrote:

                  Either you ended up with a job that doesn't need them

                  I'd like to turn that around since that seems to be the default. So you ended up with a job that does need them. Maybe you're being punished for something you did in a former life, I don't know :laugh:

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  I don't consider it punishment. :)

                  "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                  • J John R Shaw

                    That reminds me of the first program I created. An algebraic graphing program. Recursive algebraic math parser, low level graphics drawing (before Windows) and a complete windowing system. I am lazy. I would rather spend days creating a program to solve a problem than spend spend hours to solve the problem today and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow. Input/output done.

                    INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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                    englebart
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                    Funny. I remember writing a program to perform algebra "synthetic division" for polynomials. Probably took longer than doing it by hand, but it made 0 mistakes for my homework. C64 Basic to the rescue.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      ...and I didn't use Algebra or Calculus once. Remind me why I spent so long learning them all those years ago? :laugh:

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      CodeZombie62
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                      Another week over? How can you tell?

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