Full Stack Developers
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
A full stack is just one step away from stack overflow, so it's their way of saying that they are looking for cheap developers that can barely ask a question online.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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A full stack is just one step away from stack overflow, so it's their way of saying that they are looking for cheap developers that can barely ask a question online.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
Meow! Accurate, but ... :laugh:
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Meow! Accurate, but ... :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Since you seem to understand what he meant, could you explain it to me?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Since you seem to understand what he meant, could you explain it to me?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Now you scare me. Shirley you know how a stack works and what a stack overflow is?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Now you scare me. Shirley you know how a stack works and what a stack overflow is?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
Yes I do. But Griff's response makes it sound like your response was some kind of slap down. Was it?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Since you seem to understand what he meant, could you explain it to me?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Too many "coders" describe themselves as "full stack developers" (heck as "developers"!) despite their only apparent ability being to find some code on SO, hit it with a hammer, apply some sticky tape, and proclaim it as "self written" "good code" by a "L33t uber coderz". Pop over to QA and you'll find enough of 'em. :sigh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt -
Too many "coders" describe themselves as "full stack developers" (heck as "developers"!) despite their only apparent ability being to find some code on SO, hit it with a hammer, apply some sticky tape, and proclaim it as "self written" "good code" by a "L33t uber coderz". Pop over to QA and you'll find enough of 'em. :sigh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Oh, OK. I guess it was just his phrasing that I didn't understand. I had no idea what he meant.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Isn’t that a cook at Denny’s or IHOP?
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Oh, OK. I guess it was just his phrasing that I didn't understand. I had no idea what he meant.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
A full stack is literally just one byte short of a stack overflow error/exception or a nice program crash when it goes undetected. It's also the moment that some helpless kid runs to the stack overflow website and asks confused questions. It's actually not the kids who I blame for this. They are only the symptom, caused by idiots who teach them that they must not care about what's going on under the hood because some OS/compiler or the ancestor programmers' spirits take care of it much better then they possibly ever could.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can?
Yes and no... but from my point of view it makes sense. a.) Small companies Yes, please one developer should do the whole job b.) Bigger companies (who can afford three developers) In case all of them are 'full stack' it is very comfortabale. Means: - No big discussions/explanations necessary at stack boundaries - No big problem to exchange them to do different jobs on the stack. Only my thoughts
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question Chemists have exactly one rule: there are only exceptions
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Probably just copying a buzzword, but ideally, seeking a developer who will take responsibility for the whole application, not say "that's not my job". Or maybe seeking a scapegoat for a project which has already collapsed under its own weight.
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A full stack is literally just one byte short of a stack overflow error/exception or a nice program crash when it goes undetected. It's also the moment that some helpless kid runs to the stack overflow website and asks confused questions. It's actually not the kids who I blame for this. They are only the symptom, caused by idiots who teach them that they must not care about what's going on under the hood because some OS/compiler or the ancestor programmers' spirits take care of it much better then they possibly ever could.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
Thank you for the explanation. Internet posts lack a bit of context and can sometimes lead to confusion.:thumbsup:
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
That means you need to know front end, back end, database and whatever else is out there in the universe. All those "wonderful/you must know/ must have" frameworks, libraries, databases, linters, pre processors, anything that sounds like some animal or demi god you should know. Microservices, Event Straming, Cloud, Zookeeper, Hive, Pig, Kafka, SQL, No-SQL, ES6, React, React Native, Angular, Jest, Jasmin, the list goes on and on. These days you can make up a word and there is a langauge or library with that name you can find in this wonderful univese we live in. Your years of experice is nothing if you don't know the buzzword of the day. It is painful and we the citizen of this universe are the one who keeps creating new things with obscure names and solutions in search of problems. Resistance is futile as new devs are lead to belive you must use all those things or you are not an actual developer.
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can?
Seems so. What you will hear: "You own from start to end. Start thinking as an engineer and not just a developer". :)
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack Engineers developers.
FTFY Now, along with development, the expectations are to do: 1. QA work 2. Ops work This movement is shared as 'Shift Left' journey.
For your read/comments: Beginner’s Guide to understand Kafka Beginners Quick Start to Learn React.js
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
They make up the stack as they go along ... "Yes, but, you're missing xxx from the stack. Sorry". Instead of just asking for a, b, and c.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
It should meant Front End, Back End and Database... But in Web, front end that means HTML, css, javascript and who knows how many frameworks. In Windows front end means WinForms and WPF at least. You better know WCF for both, but especially web. ... Do you know just what a nightmare the cloud represents? You now need to be a systems admin and security chief using an arcane language and methodology of DevOps. Plus the cloud lets you make mistakes that are far more expensive than you used to be able to. Another cool thing about the cloud... If you get say a Cloud Programmer or Architect certification, you are then trained as a salesperson or evangelist for their expensive services. You haven't learned to develop in the cloud yet. I like the idea of T shaped skills. That's Full Stack and one skill (or more) that you completely master. It boggles me to think of the learning curve being asked of anyone going into software development these days.
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I see an enormous number of jobs asking for full stack developers. Is that their way of saying that the developer will be asked to produce more than one person possibly can? It seems to me so because I think companies want to save on IT costs.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
I don't see it that way. If I was a small company, I would try to employ only a small group of developers with a wide set of skills but without deep specialization. If I was a big company with many developers, I would try to employ specialists with deep knowledge about one particular technical skill each. So it depends on you whether you prefer versatility vs. specialization.
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It should meant Front End, Back End and Database... But in Web, front end that means HTML, css, javascript and who knows how many frameworks. In Windows front end means WinForms and WPF at least. You better know WCF for both, but especially web. ... Do you know just what a nightmare the cloud represents? You now need to be a systems admin and security chief using an arcane language and methodology of DevOps. Plus the cloud lets you make mistakes that are far more expensive than you used to be able to. Another cool thing about the cloud... If you get say a Cloud Programmer or Architect certification, you are then trained as a salesperson or evangelist for their expensive services. You haven't learned to develop in the cloud yet. I like the idea of T shaped skills. That's Full Stack and one skill (or more) that you completely master. It boggles me to think of the learning curve being asked of anyone going into software development these days.
Yet my competition in corporations are 'developers' who have attended a six-week programming camp. Their learning curve allows them access to jobs that amount to slave, sub entry level and always abused.
