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Saying "I'm sorry" is the same as saying "I apologize"...

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    ZurdoDev
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    Except at a funeral. - Demetri Martin

    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      Except at a funeral. - Demetri Martin

      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      No, there are many situations where it is not the same.

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        No, there are many situations where it is not the same.

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        Please let Demetri.Martin@gmail.com know.

        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Please let Demetri.Martin@gmail.com know.

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Why? Oh, and BTW you have publicised his email address. If you did not have his permission to do that then you are breaking a number of Data Protection laws.

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            Except at a funeral. - Demetri Martin

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            I hate it when politicians do that: "I sorry if anyone was offended by ..." rather than "I apologise for giving offence when ..." The second version is taking responsibility, the former is blaming the offended.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I hate it when politicians do that: "I sorry if anyone was offended by ..." rather than "I apologise for giving offence when ..." The second version is taking responsibility, the former is blaming the offended.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Often true, but sometimes the easily offended are to blame.

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                Except at a funeral. - Demetri Martin

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                No, "I'm sorry" is never an apology; it simply means "I share your sorrow" or "I feel your pain".

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                  Why? Oh, and BTW you have publicised his email address. If you did not have his permission to do that then you are breaking a number of Data Protection laws.

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                  Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                  Why?

                  I figured you'd want to correct his joke.

                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                    No, "I'm sorry" is never an apology; it simply means "I share your sorrow" or "I feel your pain".

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                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    "I'm sorry" is never an apology; i

                    Did you mean to write that? Because in English the way to apologize is to literally say "I'm sorry."

                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      "I'm sorry" is never an apology; i

                      Did you mean to write that? Because in English the way to apologize is to literally say "I'm sorry."

                      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      ZurdoDev wrote:

                      in English the way to apologize is to literally say "I'm sorry."

                      Or better still say, "I apologize".

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                        ZurdoDev wrote:

                        in English the way to apologize is to literally say "I'm sorry."

                        Or better still say, "I apologize".

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                        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                        Or better still say, "I apologize".

                        From my experience, the two are identical.

                        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                          Or better still say, "I apologize".

                          From my experience, the two are identical.

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          No, people simply use the word wrong, often to conceal the fact that they are not apologizing.

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                            No, people simply use the word wrong, often to conceal the fact that they are not apologizing.

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                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            people simply use the word wrong

                            In the US? Really? I've never thought there was a difference between "I apologize" and "I'm sorry." What experiences have taught you otherwise?

                            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              Often true, but sometimes the easily offended are to blame.

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                              Exactly. I use that one all the time. If I'm wrong, I'll own up. But if some snowflake decides to take offense at something I say, that's really not my problem and I hardly ever miss an opportunity to tell them exactly that - whether they understand it as I intended or not.

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                                Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                Or better still say, "I apologize".

                                From my experience, the two are identical.

                                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Nelek
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                                Only because the extended usage doesn't differentiate between both options it doesn't necessarily mean that the mean the same. In german or in spanish they are used similarly too but they are not semantically equal. And the "psicological" aspect is a bit different too. The spanish "Sorry" is a reflective verb (I am receiving / feeling the action) The spanish "Apologies" is an active verb (I am doing the action)

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  I hate it when politicians do that: "I sorry if anyone was offended by ..." rather than "I apologise for giving offence when ..." The second version is taking responsibility, the former is blaming the offended.

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  So the first one is correct about 95% of the time? :-D

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                                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                    people simply use the word wrong

                                    In the US? Really? I've never thought there was a difference between "I apologize" and "I'm sorry." What experiences have taught you otherwise?

                                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                    To say sorry simply means that you "feel bad" about what happened, whether you were the cause of it or not. To apologize literally means to explain. An apology is where you explain what happened, or why you did what you did. So it's possible to say sorry without apologizing.

                                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                      To say sorry simply means that you "feel bad" about what happened, whether you were the cause of it or not. To apologize literally means to explain. An apology is where you explain what happened, or why you did what you did. So it's possible to say sorry without apologizing.

                                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                      ZurdoDev
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                                      Interesting. I had never heard that opinion before.

                                      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        Interesting. I had never heard that opinion before.

                                        Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        enhzflep
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                                        Me either. It's really given me something to think about. I have spat apologies back in people's faces in the past, because they refused to use the word sorry. For me, knowing that they care about my mental state is far more valuable to me than understanding why they did what they did. I don't really care why they did it in fact. I was always taught that "I'm sorry" is what you say when you're apologising and "I apologise" is what you say when you're not actually sorry, but wish to move past the barrier created by the incident. But then again, I guess it's like all language. The important part is the idea communicated, not the sounds used to do so.

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