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  • J Joan M

    Currently I own a computer with a i7-6600U processor. Soon I will replace it. There is a lot of fuzz about AMD vs Intel nowadays... And I have doubts to understand the figures: My current CPU: The Intel i7-6600U[^] has 2 cores and 4 threads, a base frequency of 2.6GHZ and a max frequency of 3.4GHz with 4MB Cache. The ones I'm doubting to get: The Intel i7-10610U[^] has 4 cores and 8 threads, a base frequency of 1.8GHz and a max frequency of 4.9GHz with 8MB Cache. The Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U[^] has 8 cores and 16 threads, a base frequency of 1.7GHz and a max frequency of 4.1GHz with 8MB Cache. The Intel i7-10875H[^] has 8 cores and 16 threads, a base frequency of 2.3GHz and a maximum frequency of 5.10GHz with a 16MB Cache. This said, all the newer ones run at a much lower base frequency. Does this means the everyday tasks on programs prepared to run only on one core will run slower? In case we would have 3 single core designed programs running at the same time... Would windows set them to use a different core each? If I would have 3 vmware virtual machines running at once... having more cores would be better (would each core be dedicated to one virtual machine)? Thank you very much for your time and help. :beer:

    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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    why do you think you need to change chips ? what specific use scenarios do you think you need to handle that will require more cores, or faster cpu speed ?

    «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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      why do you think you need to change chips ? what specific use scenarios do you think you need to handle that will require more cores, or faster cpu speed ?

      «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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      Hi Bill, I will get a new laptop soon, warranty of mine is about to expire and I can't afford being at who knows which customer company, get it broken and must wait 1 week to get a new one, therefore, I will get another one with a full 5 years warranty that covers even accidental damage 100% during all that time. Then, as I'm buying a computer for the next 4 to 5 years, I'm trying to get the best that suits my needs. Currently I've got several times my Thinkpad T460s lagging due to 100% processor work loads. Outlook 365 is always open, multiple office documents are open too, the software I'm using to program (which sometimes it includes a 3D representation of a machine loaded into memory), sometimes I need multiple instances of Visual Studio running at once as the PLC/CNC programming software I use is integrated into VS... Clearly whatever I'll buy will be better than what I have now (2 cores only) but it made me think when I saw my current CPU has a higher base frequency than what I will get next... And then, the turbo frequency is not sustained as the thermals will make it step down... The worse cases are when I must start a full virtual Linux server, and 2 computers more to launch an old software that (thanks God I must not do usually) I need to perform some specific works. And sometimes (not often either) I need to check 3D designs customers send me and then my laptop suffers... Then, I can get any of those options in the original post... I think I will get a T14s (which is the natural replacement for my current computer). Now Lenovo offer Intel and AMD in some professional laptop series... and this is making it more difficult to choose... Thunderbolt or not? Less cores and higher base frequency or more cores and lower base frequency? In Spain, as far as I know, there is not a physical shop where I can see them working and test them so I must get the computer by Internet, hence all those questions.

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

      https://www.robotecnik.com freelance robots, PLC and CNC programmer.

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        Hi Bill, I will get a new laptop soon, warranty of mine is about to expire and I can't afford being at who knows which customer company, get it broken and must wait 1 week to get a new one, therefore, I will get another one with a full 5 years warranty that covers even accidental damage 100% during all that time. Then, as I'm buying a computer for the next 4 to 5 years, I'm trying to get the best that suits my needs. Currently I've got several times my Thinkpad T460s lagging due to 100% processor work loads. Outlook 365 is always open, multiple office documents are open too, the software I'm using to program (which sometimes it includes a 3D representation of a machine loaded into memory), sometimes I need multiple instances of Visual Studio running at once as the PLC/CNC programming software I use is integrated into VS... Clearly whatever I'll buy will be better than what I have now (2 cores only) but it made me think when I saw my current CPU has a higher base frequency than what I will get next... And then, the turbo frequency is not sustained as the thermals will make it step down... The worse cases are when I must start a full virtual Linux server, and 2 computers more to launch an old software that (thanks God I must not do usually) I need to perform some specific works. And sometimes (not often either) I need to check 3D designs customers send me and then my laptop suffers... Then, I can get any of those options in the original post... I think I will get a T14s (which is the natural replacement for my current computer). Now Lenovo offer Intel and AMD in some professional laptop series... and this is making it more difficult to choose... Thunderbolt or not? Less cores and higher base frequency or more cores and lower base frequency? In Spain, as far as I know, there is not a physical shop where I can see them working and test them so I must get the computer by Internet, hence all those questions.

        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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        Looking at your list I would say CPU alone won't save you... It is good to having a fast CPU with handful of threads, but you will need also a fast and large disk and plentiful of memory... I for instance have a ADM FX 9xxx with 8 threads, but I also have 64 Gb memory and SSD all over the place... In addition I use Linux, so it seems a total waste... :)

        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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          Looking at your list I would say CPU alone won't save you... It is good to having a fast CPU with handful of threads, but you will need also a fast and large disk and plentiful of memory... I for instance have a ADM FX 9xxx with 8 threads, but I also have 64 Gb memory and SSD all over the place... In addition I use Linux, so it seems a total waste... :)

          "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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          :-D Of course! I will get 32 GB of RAM, and a 1 or 2 TB SSD. In all those computers RAM is dual channel and the SSD is nice, but, in case it would not be as nice as needed I could upgrade it to something better...

          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

          https://www.robotecnik.com freelance robots, PLC and CNC programmer.

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