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When will developers stop using dynamic/asynchronous loading of pages/links/button

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    At least three times a day. That's how often I press a link, button or whatever JUST after it moves to another location to be replaced with something I did not want to press. It happens on my phone It happens on my PC on the system tray It happens in the browser And other places... Every morning I must push that icon to log in to the companys VPN in windows system tray. I wait for the icon to load. I wait for the other stuff to load, see my click-target jumping around in the menu. Ok, now everything is loaded, everything is still, I press it...NOOOOOO....JUST then it was replaced by another icon/button for an update of SSMS. I'm late for my morning meeting. The PC freezes for 60 seconds. My head boils.... Reading the morning paper on my phone...same thing....JUST when I press that article it's replaced by a link to an annoying ad (ok, maybe that's not a design flaw, maybe that's meant to be). Same thing in Visual Studio...wow, it says I can start working while it's loading my project....lets press the file I want to work on.....NOOOOO......JUST THEN.... So: Designers of user interfaces of the world: Please: If you go with that fancy dynamic loading, please see to it that the things already loaded ARE NOT MOVED!

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      At least three times a day. That's how often I press a link, button or whatever JUST after it moves to another location to be replaced with something I did not want to press. It happens on my phone It happens on my PC on the system tray It happens in the browser And other places... Every morning I must push that icon to log in to the companys VPN in windows system tray. I wait for the icon to load. I wait for the other stuff to load, see my click-target jumping around in the menu. Ok, now everything is loaded, everything is still, I press it...NOOOOOO....JUST then it was replaced by another icon/button for an update of SSMS. I'm late for my morning meeting. The PC freezes for 60 seconds. My head boils.... Reading the morning paper on my phone...same thing....JUST when I press that article it's replaced by a link to an annoying ad (ok, maybe that's not a design flaw, maybe that's meant to be). Same thing in Visual Studio...wow, it says I can start working while it's loading my project....lets press the file I want to work on.....NOOOOO......JUST THEN.... So: Designers of user interfaces of the world: Please: If you go with that fancy dynamic loading, please see to it that the things already loaded ARE NOT MOVED!

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      It must be you, that never happens to me.

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        At least three times a day. That's how often I press a link, button or whatever JUST after it moves to another location to be replaced with something I did not want to press. It happens on my phone It happens on my PC on the system tray It happens in the browser And other places... Every morning I must push that icon to log in to the companys VPN in windows system tray. I wait for the icon to load. I wait for the other stuff to load, see my click-target jumping around in the menu. Ok, now everything is loaded, everything is still, I press it...NOOOOOO....JUST then it was replaced by another icon/button for an update of SSMS. I'm late for my morning meeting. The PC freezes for 60 seconds. My head boils.... Reading the morning paper on my phone...same thing....JUST when I press that article it's replaced by a link to an annoying ad (ok, maybe that's not a design flaw, maybe that's meant to be). Same thing in Visual Studio...wow, it says I can start working while it's loading my project....lets press the file I want to work on.....NOOOOO......JUST THEN.... So: Designers of user interfaces of the world: Please: If you go with that fancy dynamic loading, please see to it that the things already loaded ARE NOT MOVED!

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        Did you have an actual question or did you just sign up to post a rant that everyone is going to ignore?

        Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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          Did you have an actual question or did you just sign up to post a rant that everyone is going to ignore?

          Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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          It's a good rant, although the Rant button could have been used, and it's already gotten three responses. :)

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            It's a good rant, although the Rant button could have been used, and it's already gotten three responses. :)

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            Truth be told, the CP "login" in the top right corner never works for me. It should be modal once you invoke it, but you only get to select your email, them it disappears. Then you do something else instead which I can't remember because I'm still thinking of why no one ever fixed this. (But thought it must be me)

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              Truth be told, the CP "login" in the top right corner never works for me. It should be modal once you invoke it, but you only get to select your email, them it disappears. Then you do something else instead which I can't remember because I'm still thinking of why no one ever fixed this. (But thought it must be me)

              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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              It works correctly for me every time. And the details in the modal popup are saved in the browser's cookies, not on the Codeproject system.

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                It works correctly for me every time. And the details in the modal popup are saved in the browser's cookies, not on the Codeproject system.

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                I think you're "clicking" that link and going to the / a "login" page directly. If you hover over it, you get a type of login "tooltip" that you then start playing tag with. If you do manage to tag (focus) it, a drop down will show some emails you can now stab at ... at which point the "login tooltip" disappears before you get to enter a password. No keys were typed or buttons were pressed. I didn't make this up. In any event, what's the point of "2" login facilities (the "tooltip" and the page). If you're not seeing the hovering "login tooltip", you're not "doing it right". (It's only in Edge via Outlook; I'm always automatically logged in on FireFox).

                It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                  I think you're "clicking" that link and going to the / a "login" page directly. If you hover over it, you get a type of login "tooltip" that you then start playing tag with. If you do manage to tag (focus) it, a drop down will show some emails you can now stab at ... at which point the "login tooltip" disappears before you get to enter a password. No keys were typed or buttons were pressed. I didn't make this up. In any event, what's the point of "2" login facilities (the "tooltip" and the page). If you're not seeing the hovering "login tooltip", you're not "doing it right". (It's only in Edge via Outlook; I'm always automatically logged in on FireFox).

                  It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                  No, that's not what I see. I just signed out in order to test it. If I hover over the login at top right the little popup window appears with my email and password filled in. I then click the "sign in" button and I am back here. That has been the case for as long as I remember, using IE, Firefox and Chrome.

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                    No, that's not what I see. I just signed out in order to test it. If I hover over the login at top right the little popup window appears with my email and password filled in. I then click the "sign in" button and I am back here. That has been the case for as long as I remember, using IE, Firefox and Chrome.

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                    I could produce some "video evidence", but can't see the point. I'm not denying your reality. (Maybe it's related to my mouse "scroll speed setting" or something ... super fast)

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                      I could produce some "video evidence", but can't see the point. I'm not denying your reality. (Maybe it's related to my mouse "scroll speed setting" or something ... super fast)

                      It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                      Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                      I could produce some "video evidence"

                      I do not disbelieve you, I am merely telling you what happens for me. There may be a million reasons why our experiences are different, but that's just software.

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                      • M Member 11246948

                        At least three times a day. That's how often I press a link, button or whatever JUST after it moves to another location to be replaced with something I did not want to press. It happens on my phone It happens on my PC on the system tray It happens in the browser And other places... Every morning I must push that icon to log in to the companys VPN in windows system tray. I wait for the icon to load. I wait for the other stuff to load, see my click-target jumping around in the menu. Ok, now everything is loaded, everything is still, I press it...NOOOOOO....JUST then it was replaced by another icon/button for an update of SSMS. I'm late for my morning meeting. The PC freezes for 60 seconds. My head boils.... Reading the morning paper on my phone...same thing....JUST when I press that article it's replaced by a link to an annoying ad (ok, maybe that's not a design flaw, maybe that's meant to be). Same thing in Visual Studio...wow, it says I can start working while it's loading my project....lets press the file I want to work on.....NOOOOO......JUST THEN.... So: Designers of user interfaces of the world: Please: If you go with that fancy dynamic loading, please see to it that the things already loaded ARE NOT MOVED!

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                        You need faster computers. :-D It happens to me once in a while and yes, it is very annoying. Sometimes it has nothing to do with dynamically added controls, it's just that the browser is taking a while to apply the CSS.

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                          Dave Kreskowiak

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                          It's posted in a discussion group and does not need to be a question. ;P

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                            You need faster computers. :-D It happens to me once in a while and yes, it is very annoying. Sometimes it has nothing to do with dynamically added controls, it's just that the browser is taking a while to apply the CSS.

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                            It happens to me every time I try to click the Network notification icon or the speaker.

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                              It happens to me every time I try to click the Network notification icon or the speaker.

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                              GenJerDan wrote:

                              It happens to me every time I try to click the Network notification icon or the speaker.

                              This must be a joke but I don't get it. :confused:

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                                GenJerDan wrote:

                                It happens to me every time I try to click the Network notification icon or the speaker.

                                This must be a joke but I don't get it. :confused:

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                                No joke. I'll have the pointer over either of them down there, but as soon as I start to click, everything jumps to the left and I end up clicking the wrong icon. It's probably a setting, to show hidden icons until needed or something. Fixing it would would remove what little excitement I have these days, so I won't even check for a resolution.

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                                  No joke. I'll have the pointer over either of them down there, but as soon as I start to click, everything jumps to the left and I end up clicking the wrong icon. It's probably a setting, to show hidden icons until needed or something. Fixing it would would remove what little excitement I have these days, so I won't even check for a resolution.

                                  We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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                                  Oh, I see. You were responding to the wrong person. No worries.

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                                  • M Member 11246948

                                    At least three times a day. That's how often I press a link, button or whatever JUST after it moves to another location to be replaced with something I did not want to press. It happens on my phone It happens on my PC on the system tray It happens in the browser And other places... Every morning I must push that icon to log in to the companys VPN in windows system tray. I wait for the icon to load. I wait for the other stuff to load, see my click-target jumping around in the menu. Ok, now everything is loaded, everything is still, I press it...NOOOOOO....JUST then it was replaced by another icon/button for an update of SSMS. I'm late for my morning meeting. The PC freezes for 60 seconds. My head boils.... Reading the morning paper on my phone...same thing....JUST when I press that article it's replaced by a link to an annoying ad (ok, maybe that's not a design flaw, maybe that's meant to be). Same thing in Visual Studio...wow, it says I can start working while it's loading my project....lets press the file I want to work on.....NOOOOO......JUST THEN.... So: Designers of user interfaces of the world: Please: If you go with that fancy dynamic loading, please see to it that the things already loaded ARE NOT MOVED!

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                                    Is the answer: every time they stop to concentrate on the problem of making the dynamically/asynchronously loaded code do the work they might have already solved when loading the pages/links/button?

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