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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    [Iran scientist 'killed by remote-controlled weapon' - BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55128970) Internet of Termination?

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      [Iran scientist 'killed by remote-controlled weapon' - BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55128970) Internet of Termination?

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      GuyThiebaut
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      Reading the article, it's vague enough to bring back memories of the last episode of breaking bad.

      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

      ― Christopher Hitchens

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        Reading the article, it's vague enough to bring back memories of the last episode of breaking bad.

        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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        Daniel Pfeffer
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        I didn't post this because of the news value, but as a reminder that our nifty little gadgets can be used for more than turning on the air conditioner before one goes home from the office. Kids, don't try this at home!

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          I didn't post this because of the news value, but as a reminder that our nifty little gadgets can be used for more than turning on the air conditioner before one goes home from the office. Kids, don't try this at home!

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          honey the codewitch
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          I would hate to think that my code would wind up in a weapon somewhere. Fortunately that's not likely.

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

            I would hate to think that my code would wind up in a weapon somewhere. Fortunately that's not likely.

            Real programmers use butterflies

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            OriginalGriff
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            Oh I dunno - judging by QA and SO, some "developers" will copy'n'paste anything into their code if they think it might do what they want. Even if that's just a side effect of the original code ... :sigh:

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

              I would hate to think that my code would wind up in a weapon somewhere. Fortunately that's not likely.

              Real programmers use butterflies

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              honey the codewitch wrote:

              I would hate to think that my code would wind up in a weapon somewhere. Fortunately that's not likely.

              Do you mean to say that your code has never blown up? :)

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                Oh I dunno - judging by QA and SO, some "developers" will copy'n'paste anything into their code if they think it might do what they want. Even if that's just a side effect of the original code ... :sigh:

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                honey the codewitch
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                That may explain North Korean missile systems.

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                  I would hate to think that my code would wind up in a weapon somewhere. Fortunately that's not likely.

                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Not even your if-statements of mass destruction? ;p

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                    Not even your if-statements of mass destruction? ;p

                    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    Those if statements are designed to test your mettle, not to blow up children. :sigh:

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                      Those if statements are designed to test your mettle, not to blow up children. :sigh:

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      not to blow up children in your face

                      FTFY :thumbsup: Consider my mettle tested :laugh:

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                      • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                        Those if statements are designed to test your mettle, not to blow up children. :sigh:

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Hey, they are multifunctional! :-D

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          honey the codewitch wrote:

                          not to blow up children in your face

                          FTFY :thumbsup: Consider my mettle tested :laugh:

                          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          I can't even recall a time I've ever run into the problem {} is supposed to solve w/ if statements. Maybe it's you? :laugh:

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                            Hey, they are multifunctional! :-D

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            Warning: This code comes with side effects.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                              I can't even recall a time I've ever run into the problem {} is supposed to solve w/ if statements. Maybe it's you? :laugh:

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              I have ... back in the days before editors auto-indented for you. And it was a sod to track down, because I tend to read what I meant to write, rather than what I actually did. :sigh:

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                I have ... back in the days before editors auto-indented for you. And it was a sod to track down, because I tend to read what I meant to write, rather than what I actually did. :sigh:

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I'm still using editors that don't. I guess I'm just wired such that it doesn't trip me up. I always read the next line of non-comment code after an if as conditional. That's just how I work, for better or worse.

                                if(flag.test_and_set());

                                would screw me up but nobody would do that on purpose. Not even me.

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                  I'm still using editors that don't. I guess I'm just wired such that it doesn't trip me up. I always read the next line of non-comment code after an if as conditional. That's just how I work, for better or worse.

                                  if(flag.test_and_set());

                                  would screw me up but nobody would do that on purpose. Not even me.

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  The problem comes when you get this:

                                  if (a == b)
                                  c();
                                  d();

                                  Or you try to add debugging lines to find out what is happening:

                                  if (a == b)
                                  printf("a equals b\n");
                                  c();
                                  d();

                                  And you start scratching your head to work out why adding debug code changes the results ... :laugh: That's why I always use curly brackets:

                                  if (a == b)
                                  {
                                  c();
                                  d();
                                  }

                                  Even I can't muck it up then! :-D Hopefully. :sigh:

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    The problem comes when you get this:

                                    if (a == b)
                                    c();
                                    d();

                                    Or you try to add debugging lines to find out what is happening:

                                    if (a == b)
                                    printf("a equals b\n");
                                    c();
                                    d();

                                    And you start scratching your head to work out why adding debug code changes the results ... :laugh: That's why I always use curly brackets:

                                    if (a == b)
                                    {
                                    c();
                                    d();
                                    }

                                    Even I can't muck it up then! :-D Hopefully. :sigh:

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    honey the codewitch
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                                    I mean, I get it but even skimming really fast I saw that c() and d() always get called. It's probably just me.

                                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      The problem comes when you get this:

                                      if (a == b)
                                      c();
                                      d();

                                      Or you try to add debugging lines to find out what is happening:

                                      if (a == b)
                                      printf("a equals b\n");
                                      c();
                                      d();

                                      And you start scratching your head to work out why adding debug code changes the results ... :laugh: That's why I always use curly brackets:

                                      if (a == b)
                                      {
                                      c();
                                      d();
                                      }

                                      Even I can't muck it up then! :-D Hopefully. :sigh:

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      Greg Utas
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                                      I make this clear by writing

                                      if(a == b) c();

                                      I don't see the need for the line break (or a space after control keywords like if, he says, donning his asbestos suit). But if it won't fit in my self-imposed 80 columns, or if I want a line break for debugging purposes, I add braces:

                                      if(a == b)
                                      {
                                      c();
                                      }

                                      Unless, of course, there's an else clause, which also makes things clear:

                                      if(a == b)
                                      c();
                                      else
                                      d();

                                      But if either the "then" part or else part needs braces for multiple statements, the other one also gets them. Aren't you glad you brought this up?!

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                                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                        [Iran scientist 'killed by remote-controlled weapon' - BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55128970) Internet of Termination?

                                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                        The Other John Ingram
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                                        in the 1997 remake the Jackel, the assassin uses a remote controlled machine gun housed in a van. sound familiar

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                                        • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                          [Iran scientist 'killed by remote-controlled weapon' - BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55128970) Internet of Termination?

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                          That's a seriously irritating article. I feel like they are talking to 5 yo's. fwiw, I know I've read where in Syria, one side was using cheap drones to drop C4 on soldiers. It's amazing we haven't had a swarm attack somewhere. And there is another story where some Australian decided to try and build a cruise missile with nothing but off the shelf components. I think he got it to significant range, GPS navigation, and could carry a "payload" of something like 100 Kg. Yeah, genie is out of the bottle.

                                          Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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