correction: Microsoft is a virus. They wreck every software tool they try to re-brand as a Microsoft product.

OriginalGriff

Be honest: so do most other companies. Look at Corel for example: When Paintshop Pro was a JASC product, it was small, light, powerful and fast. It walked all over Corel's offering Photo Paint, so they bought JASC out. Now it's huge, bloated, powerfull, buggy and a damn sight slower. Or Samna's Ami Pro: the best word processor available, way, way better than Word. So Lotus bought it and it sank without trace. Or ... you get the idea. Microsoft isn't a virus: it's a huge company where not only does the right hand not know - or care - what the left hand is doing, it actually has a couple of dozen hands, and not even the fingers want to chat to each other! This is perfectly normal "large group" behaviour, and you can see it everywhere: Corporate, military, government - they all work the same way!

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Lost User

:mad: That's horrible! Even if I write it using Windows, I still agree with you that what they do is evil. Dear mr. Gates, if you read that, I can change my mind about your system if you give me a job :-D

honey the codewitch

Amen. This is how people operate in groups. It's the same dynamic that gives rise to empires and nation states. This thread reminds me of a passage from The Tao of Programming:

A novice asked the Master: "In the East, there is a great tree-structure that men call 'Corporate Headquarters'. It is bloated out of shape with vice presidents and accountants. It issues a multitude of memos, each saying 'Go Hence!' or 'Go Hither!' and nobody knows what is meant. Every year new names are put onto the branches, but all to no avail. How can such an unnatural entity exist?" The Master replied: "You perceive this immense structure and are disturbed that it has no rational purpose. Can you not take amusement from its endless gyrations? Do you not enjoy the untroubled ease of programming beneath its sheltering branches? Why are you bothered by its uselessness?"

Real programmers use butterflies

Lost User

Wow :-D This Tao of Programming makes me depressed :-D I can't find any amusement from this "endless gyrations" in corporate headquarters :((

W Balboos GHB

Compared to Apple, they're almost alright. Apple sells you hardware with the bloat in the form of the price. Demands you only buy their product and buy your software through their portal. Sales down a bit? Do an "upgrade" to diminish the usefulness of those already foolish enough to have bought from you so they feel the need to replace what they have just to break even (see Red Queen's run, or just ask Alice). And what's neatest of all? Apple's fan-boys and MicroSloth's fan-boys duke it out verbally all the time, oblivious to the fact that that is just what they're socially engineered into doing. When it comes down to it, whether it's from a horse or a cow, when you fall into a pile of shit it still stinks.

Ravings en masse^

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honey the codewitch

But imagine how much happier you'd be if you could! :laugh:

Real programmers use butterflies

charlieg

Member, I am amazed that the lounge lizards did not eat you for a snack. Fussing about Microsoft is like chumming the waters for great whites.

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Lost User

What a narrow view. No doubt you are using Microsoft products just to post your complaint.

dandy72

Member 14971499 wrote:

Dear mr. Gates,

A response (referring to Bill Gates, who hasn't had much to do with Microsoft for years), to a post referring to a lawsuit that took place over two decades ago. How do I get out of this timewarp?

Lost User

Member 11720681 wrote:

After working on it for many decades, MSFT still can`t get Windows OS to be anything more than a disgusting, overly-bloated security nightmare.

The song of every non-techie pretending to be; blame all errors on Microsoft, claim every victory as yours; even if using MS tools to achieve them. Try OS/2 Warp. Or that nonsense they call "Mac Os". If you don't like MS, go to the competitors. Oh, wait, there's none :D

Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

Lost User

:laugh: