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  • J Johnny J

    Nelek wrote:

    If it existed... wouldn't you have found it already?

    Dunno - Maybe my Goggle Fu is not strong enough?!?!? :confused:

    Nelek wrote:

    Additionally... cool idea for a pet project for someone with spare time.

    Yes, but spare time is hard to come by... ;)

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    W Balboos GHB
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    Johnny J. wrote:

    Yes, but spare time is hard to come by...

    . . . and so he claims in his CP Post . . . (In this place, only a few people, like Chris, aren't in recreation mode - which is a good thing for the rest of us).

    Ravings en masse^

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    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    • D Daniel Pfeffer

      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

      Pen and the wrapper paper from your yesterday's lunch?

      How will he record the morning hours? :)

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      Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

      How will he record the morning hours?

      There's a roll of note-paper in the bathroom.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • J Johnny J

        BillWoodruff wrote:

        because it will help develop your programming skills

        I've been programming for some 40 odd years, so trust me Bill, there's nothing in this that could remotely develop my programming skills... :laugh: I just want a quick and (if necessary) dirty solution. :doh:

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        Johnny J. wrote:

        programming for some 40 odd years, so trust me

        ... no :) I've been programming about 40 years, I can create a C# main-windowless Win SystemTrayApp with toggling custom start-stop notify-icons, and, menu choices on right-click, in under 30 minutes ... adding a Timer, and serialization of on-off time data ... maybe another fifteen minutes.

        «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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        • J Johnny J

          I need to record time spent on a specific project. I'm not working continuously on the project, but put in an hour here, five minutes there etc, and it's becoming quite tedious writing down all the time spent and adding it together. So I'm looking for a simple stopwatch application. Plenty of those around, with nice GUIs, floating on top windows (which I don't want in this case, but I can see why some people would think it's nice) etc, but all I've find is missing the feature I want the most: I want to be able to start and stop it by clicking its icon in the system tray so that I don't have to spend additional time locating the GUI window to start and stop it. Anybody has any suggestions? And to anticipate the obvious reply: Yes, I COULD roll my own in a matter of hours, but why would I want to spend even a couple of hours reinventing something that already exists? Apart from that, I know myself too well: If I made my own application, I would spend hours and hours improving, polishing, tweaking, etc. Time that could be well spend doing the real task instead....

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          Maybe one of these: best-time-tracking-software[^]

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          • B BillWoodruff

            Johnny J. wrote:

            programming for some 40 odd years, so trust me

            ... no :) I've been programming about 40 years, I can create a C# main-windowless Win SystemTrayApp with toggling custom start-stop notify-icons, and, menu choices on right-click, in under 30 minutes ... adding a Timer, and serialization of on-off time data ... maybe another fifteen minutes.

            «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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            Slow Eddie
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            Please do it. And put a link to the download. Should be free, of course. I could really use something like this. And I am sure many others could too. You'd earn the respect and eternal gratitude of all of us. I use KeePass and feel the same way about the developer that created it. If I ever met him I would thank him personally. I have been programming for 44 years and I'm still learning somethin new almost every day. I don't think I could do an app like this. though. :|

            Yeah! You right!

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              Please do it. And put a link to the download. Should be free, of course. I could really use something like this. And I am sure many others could too. You'd earn the respect and eternal gratitude of all of us. I use KeePass and feel the same way about the developer that created it. If I ever met him I would thank him personally. I have been programming for 44 years and I'm still learning somethin new almost every day. I don't think I could do an app like this. though. :|

              Yeah! You right!

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              Slow Eddie wrote:

              I don't think I could do an app like this. though.

              I bet you underestimate yourself, but, unless you try, you will never know. A SystemTrayApp is not rocket-science. I think it's better if I spend my limited screen-time (visual impairment) helping other CP members at the beginning of their years of programming, as well as my on-going self-education :)

              «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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              • N Nelek

                Johnny J. wrote:

                but all I've find is missing the feature I want the most: ... why would I want to spend even a couple of hours reinventing something that already exists?

                If it existed... wouldn't you have found it already? Additionally... cool idea for a pet project for someone with spare time. :)

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Can this thread[^] help ?

                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                • B BillWoodruff

                  Johnny J. wrote:

                  programming for some 40 odd years, so trust me

                  ... no :) I've been programming about 40 years, I can create a C# main-windowless Win SystemTrayApp with toggling custom start-stop notify-icons, and, menu choices on right-click, in under 30 minutes ... adding a Timer, and serialization of on-off time data ... maybe another fifteen minutes.

                  «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                  Johnny J
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                  Sure you can, but if you want to make a program that's actually worth using, and looks reasonably nice, it's more work than that, and you know it. FYI: I have now completed the application, and it has taken me some 5 hours to get everything the way I wanted it, including making icons etc. I could have told you EXACTLY how long it had taken, had I had an application I could start and stop in the system tray to record time spent on a certain project. But I didn't have that! :doh: So there is 5 hours gone I could have spent on something else. And even if what you say is true (which it isn't), it would still have been 45 minutes spent unnecesarily had I been able to find such an application. Furthermore, it's 5 hours I'm not going to get paid for, despite the fact that the program is going to be used for work management.

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                    Johnny J. wrote:

                    I want to be able to start and stop it by clicking its icon in the system tray

                    I am going to guess that not many of these apps exist for good reason. I, personally, would forget to click the stop button all the time. just track your time in a spread sheet and call it a day. google sheets if you don't already have Excel and want to go free and in the cloud. I have been tracking my billable time for clients and projects in a spreadsheet for years, not including my employers project software (TFS, DevOps, etc.) but that is not related directly to billable timesheets. good luck.

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                    Johnny J
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                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    I, personally, would forget to click the stop button all the time.

                    Well, not everybody are the same. You can't judge the rest of the world on the basis on how you do.

                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    just track your time in a spread sheet and call it a day.

                    Didn't I just mention in the OP that that is how I'm doing today, and it's not working for me?

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                    • J Johnny J

                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      I, personally, would forget to click the stop button all the time.

                      Well, not everybody are the same. You can't judge the rest of the world on the basis on how you do.

                      Slacker007 wrote:

                      just track your time in a spread sheet and call it a day.

                      Didn't I just mention in the OP that that is how I'm doing today, and it's not working for me?

                      Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                      best of luck in your quest.

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Sure you can, but if you want to make a program that's actually worth using, and looks reasonably nice, it's more work than that, and you know it. FYI: I have now completed the application, and it has taken me some 5 hours to get everything the way I wanted it, including making icons etc. I could have told you EXACTLY how long it had taken, had I had an application I could start and stop in the system tray to record time spent on a certain project. But I didn't have that! :doh: So there is 5 hours gone I could have spent on something else. And even if what you say is true (which it isn't), it would still have been 45 minutes spent unnecesarily had I been able to find such an application. Furthermore, it's 5 hours I'm not going to get paid for, despite the fact that the program is going to be used for work management.

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                        BillWoodruff
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                        Johnny J. wrote:

                        . And even if what you say is true (which it isn't)

                        troll.

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                        • J Johnny J

                          Sure you can, but if you want to make a program that's actually worth using, and looks reasonably nice, it's more work than that, and you know it. FYI: I have now completed the application, and it has taken me some 5 hours to get everything the way I wanted it, including making icons etc. I could have told you EXACTLY how long it had taken, had I had an application I could start and stop in the system tray to record time spent on a certain project. But I didn't have that! :doh: So there is 5 hours gone I could have spent on something else. And even if what you say is true (which it isn't), it would still have been 45 minutes spent unnecesarily had I been able to find such an application. Furthermore, it's 5 hours I'm not going to get paid for, despite the fact that the program is going to be used for work management.

                          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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                          rnbergren
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                          Please to share? I could use this myself.

                          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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                            Can this thread[^] help ?

                            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                            Nelek
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                            I wouldn't know... I don't have normal television and I don't watch soccer, except from some EM or WM with friends in the biergarten, what right now would be a bit difficult.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              I need to record time spent on a specific project. I'm not working continuously on the project, but put in an hour here, five minutes there etc, and it's becoming quite tedious writing down all the time spent and adding it together. So I'm looking for a simple stopwatch application. Plenty of those around, with nice GUIs, floating on top windows (which I don't want in this case, but I can see why some people would think it's nice) etc, but all I've find is missing the feature I want the most: I want to be able to start and stop it by clicking its icon in the system tray so that I don't have to spend additional time locating the GUI window to start and stop it. Anybody has any suggestions? And to anticipate the obvious reply: Yes, I COULD roll my own in a matter of hours, but why would I want to spend even a couple of hours reinventing something that already exists? Apart from that, I know myself too well: If I made my own application, I would spend hours and hours improving, polishing, tweaking, etc. Time that could be well spend doing the real task instead....

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                              What about this thread[^] ?

                              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                I wouldn't know... I don't have normal television and I don't watch soccer, except from some EM or WM with friends in the biergarten, what right now would be a bit difficult.

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                Rage
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                                :laugh: My post was completely screwed up - wrong link and wrong post i answered to... Sorry, don't know what happened :omg:

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                                  What about this thread[^] ?

                                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  Johnny J
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                                  That is a very interesting concept. It wouldn't work for me, because I work on different projects using the same applications. But apart from that, I like the idea... :cool: :thumbsup:

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                                    That is a very interesting concept. It wouldn't work for me, because I work on different projects using the same applications. But apart from that, I like the idea... :cool: :thumbsup:

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                                    Yes, this is what I was afraid of - When they wanted to implement a similar software in our area, our SW guys said - "All fine, but I am only doing Visual Studio for different projects all day" :-D

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                                      Please to share? I could use this myself.

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                                      rnbergren wrote:

                                      Please to share?

                                      Okay, I will post in the next week.

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                                        :laugh: My post was completely screwed up - wrong link and wrong post i answered to... Sorry, don't know what happened :omg:

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                                        Nelek
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                                        Maybe the hamster drunk wine instead of water? :rolleyes: :-D

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                          Maybe the hamster drunk wine instead of water? :rolleyes: :-D

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                          BillWoodruff
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                                          Nelek wrote:

                                          the hamster drunk wine instead of water

                                          On CP hamsters change water into wine :omg: !

                                          «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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