W11 - are there Pro and Home versions?
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Every press article I have read about Windows 11 (mainly by people who can't spell 'PC' but want to jump on the bandwagon) has gone on about TPM and centralised taskbars, but none have said what versions of W11 there will be. So, my question is ... will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version? I have just bought a new PC (prev one is too old for latest W10 updates) with W10 Home on it and I have had an Amazon 'based on your recent views ...' message for a cheap W10 Pro license. So if W11 is likely to be a free upgrade from W10 and has a W11 Pro variant, it would probably be best to upgrade my new PC to W10 Pro to get W11 Pro when it comes out. If there isn't a W11 Pro, then it would be best to stick with W10 Home (no risky upgrade, no charge for new license) and get the generic W11 instead. Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable, when it would be quicker and easier to steal the whole PC which has the bonus that the drive remains readable.
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Every press article I have read about Windows 11 (mainly by people who can't spell 'PC' but want to jump on the bandwagon) has gone on about TPM and centralised taskbars, but none have said what versions of W11 there will be. So, my question is ... will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version? I have just bought a new PC (prev one is too old for latest W10 updates) with W10 Home on it and I have had an Amazon 'based on your recent views ...' message for a cheap W10 Pro license. So if W11 is likely to be a free upgrade from W10 and has a W11 Pro variant, it would probably be best to upgrade my new PC to W10 Pro to get W11 Pro when it comes out. If there isn't a W11 Pro, then it would be best to stick with W10 Home (no risky upgrade, no charge for new license) and get the generic W11 instead. Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable, when it would be quicker and easier to steal the whole PC which has the bonus that the drive remains readable.
jsc42 wrote:
Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable
Too often POS and bank workstation drives are dumped without any physical destruction of the contents, exposing tons of potentially sensible data. Also corporate espionage is a thing, especially when outsourcing and consultancy are widely used.
jsc42 wrote:
will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version?
I :elephant:ing hope they ditch the versioning for the OS, it creates the worst compatibility issues with no reason at all.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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jsc42 wrote:
Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable
Too often POS and bank workstation drives are dumped without any physical destruction of the contents, exposing tons of potentially sensible data. Also corporate espionage is a thing, especially when outsourcing and consultancy are widely used.
jsc42 wrote:
will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version?
I :elephant:ing hope they ditch the versioning for the OS, it creates the worst compatibility issues with no reason at all.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
Versions? Versions=$ You can't join a system with Home version to a domain. Businesses need domains. So, to do away with versions, they can make the new version the price of the Pro version or they can make it the price of Home. Hmm, what to do with the Workstation version? Any bets? I think a bigger question would be about any new licensing for running in a VM.
>64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Every press article I have read about Windows 11 (mainly by people who can't spell 'PC' but want to jump on the bandwagon) has gone on about TPM and centralised taskbars, but none have said what versions of W11 there will be. So, my question is ... will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version? I have just bought a new PC (prev one is too old for latest W10 updates) with W10 Home on it and I have had an Amazon 'based on your recent views ...' message for a cheap W10 Pro license. So if W11 is likely to be a free upgrade from W10 and has a W11 Pro variant, it would probably be best to upgrade my new PC to W10 Pro to get W11 Pro when it comes out. If there isn't a W11 Pro, then it would be best to stick with W10 Home (no risky upgrade, no charge for new license) and get the generic W11 instead. Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable, when it would be quicker and easier to steal the whole PC which has the bonus that the drive remains readable.
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Versions? Versions=$ You can't join a system with Home version to a domain. Businesses need domains. So, to do away with versions, they can make the new version the price of the Pro version or they can make it the price of Home. Hmm, what to do with the Workstation version? Any bets? I think a bigger question would be about any new licensing for running in a VM.
>64 If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
Yes, but also businesses have usually discounted and bulk prices (small business most often than not don't have domains at all anyway and use the Home edition), and maintaining more versions has a higher cost thant maintaining one. I can understand a Server version, but Home and Pro should be unified. I still have nightmares with the horrible Win7 version hell: Starter, Basic, Home, Pro, Ultimate and a couple of others. The compatibility issues I had are the stuff successful horrors are made of.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Every press article I have read about Windows 11 (mainly by people who can't spell 'PC' but want to jump on the bandwagon) has gone on about TPM and centralised taskbars, but none have said what versions of W11 there will be. So, my question is ... will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version? I have just bought a new PC (prev one is too old for latest W10 updates) with W10 Home on it and I have had an Amazon 'based on your recent views ...' message for a cheap W10 Pro license. So if W11 is likely to be a free upgrade from W10 and has a W11 Pro variant, it would probably be best to upgrade my new PC to W10 Pro to get W11 Pro when it comes out. If there isn't a W11 Pro, then it would be best to stick with W10 Home (no risky upgrade, no charge for new license) and get the generic W11 instead. Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable, when it would be quicker and easier to steal the whole PC which has the bonus that the drive remains readable.
Yes. Pro is the version that will still be installable without internet access. Home is making an MS account mandatory, and will prevent any internetless install as a result. X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| &
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Yes. Pro is the version that will still be installable without internet access. Home is making an MS account mandatory, and will prevent any internetless install as a result. X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| &
Dan Neely wrote:
Home is making an MS account mandatory, and will prevent any internetless install as a result.
WTAF??? They are practically begging to have their vulnerabilities ethically exposed and exploited, purely as a proof of concept.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Dan Neely wrote:
Home is making an MS account mandatory, and will prevent any internetless install as a result.
WTAF??? They are practically begging to have their vulnerabilities ethically exposed and exploited, purely as a proof of concept.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
I'm still undecided if that, or threatening to block any computers more than about 3 years old from upgrading is the most :elephant:ing stupid thing they've done.
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Every press article I have read about Windows 11 (mainly by people who can't spell 'PC' but want to jump on the bandwagon) has gone on about TPM and centralised taskbars, but none have said what versions of W11 there will be. So, my question is ... will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version? I have just bought a new PC (prev one is too old for latest W10 updates) with W10 Home on it and I have had an Amazon 'based on your recent views ...' message for a cheap W10 Pro license. So if W11 is likely to be a free upgrade from W10 and has a W11 Pro variant, it would probably be best to upgrade my new PC to W10 Pro to get W11 Pro when it comes out. If there isn't a W11 Pro, then it would be best to stick with W10 Home (no risky upgrade, no charge for new license) and get the generic W11 instead. Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable, when it would be quicker and easier to steal the whole PC which has the bonus that the drive remains readable.
My laptop will soon turn 5. It still suits my purposes, but maybe it's time to get a new one before they all come with Windows 11.
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My laptop will soon turn 5. It still suits my purposes, but maybe it's time to get a new one before they all come with Windows 11.
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