It is secure - trust us...
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But if cloud platforms are so secure out-of-the-box, how companies selling products to secure it make billions of dollars? Are we paranoid (and being used) or someone lying here?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
In defense of these companies... Security is an ongoing endeavor. It is never one and done because people keep coming up with new ways to exploit things, and as long as technology progresses this will always be a thing. Ergo, in order for something to be secure, it takes ongoing effort. These seemingly ancillary companies do some of that work. They are part of the process of reification of the economic pressure for cloud security. And as long as that economic pressure exists, you can expect as much attention will be paid to security efforts in turn. In short, the existence of said companies is a good thing. That having been said, *nothing* is ever as secure as the marketers, advertisers and corporate officers would like you to believe.
Real programmers use butterflies
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But if cloud platforms are so secure out-of-the-box, how companies selling products to secure it make billions of dollars? Are we paranoid (and being used) or someone lying here?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
EXCLUSIVE Microsoft warns thousands of cloud customers of exposed databases | Reuters[^] comes to mind....
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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But if cloud platforms are so secure out-of-the-box, how companies selling products to secure it make billions of dollars? Are we paranoid (and being used) or someone lying here?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I was at the supermarket an hour ago, and the cashier didn't know the code to unlock the cash-register. So she called a coworker who shouted the passcode from the other side of the store. So, I had to place a remark there on security, at which she claimed the code is changed daily. Yah, that explains why the coworker knows 8 numbers from the top of his head. Probably learning them each morning by heart in case he needs to shout it ad hoc. I don't trust anyone.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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In defense of these companies... Security is an ongoing endeavor. It is never one and done because people keep coming up with new ways to exploit things, and as long as technology progresses this will always be a thing. Ergo, in order for something to be secure, it takes ongoing effort. These seemingly ancillary companies do some of that work. They are part of the process of reification of the economic pressure for cloud security. And as long as that economic pressure exists, you can expect as much attention will be paid to security efforts in turn. In short, the existence of said companies is a good thing. That having been said, *nothing* is ever as secure as the marketers, advertisers and corporate officers would like you to believe.
Real programmers use butterflies
I'm in favor of security. We use all MS has to offer on Azure (and pay for it)... And than comes in a company to tell that all is BS and list a book of propositions have very vague connection to security, just to prove the prize and spread fear... But at the end of the day they can't take a bit of information out of our DB (even they collected a lot of useless info on the environment and make a lot of wrong assumptions about the development base).
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I'm in favor of security. We use all MS has to offer on Azure (and pay for it)... And than comes in a company to tell that all is BS and list a book of propositions have very vague connection to security, just to prove the prize and spread fear... But at the end of the day they can't take a bit of information out of our DB (even they collected a lot of useless info on the environment and make a lot of wrong assumptions about the development base).
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Oh that is cruel, making a sales person prove a selling point. Bloody lousy sales person if they can't find a selling point that cannot be tested.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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In defense of these companies... Security is an ongoing endeavor. It is never one and done because people keep coming up with new ways to exploit things, and as long as technology progresses this will always be a thing. Ergo, in order for something to be secure, it takes ongoing effort. These seemingly ancillary companies do some of that work. They are part of the process of reification of the economic pressure for cloud security. And as long as that economic pressure exists, you can expect as much attention will be paid to security efforts in turn. In short, the existence of said companies is a good thing. That having been said, *nothing* is ever as secure as the marketers, advertisers and corporate officers would like you to believe.
Real programmers use butterflies
Well said! An investment analysis and advisory service I use has been continuously online for 30 years, but I think someone got a little lax. Friday, 12/17, the system went down due to a ransomware attack. It just came back online about 10:00 this morning. I'm betting there will be a few changes in the IT department!
Will Rogers never met me.
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But if cloud platforms are so secure out-of-the-box, how companies selling products to secure it make billions of dollars? Are we paranoid (and being used) or someone lying here?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I think you have to use cloud platforms, they are platforms and its up to you to secure your code and data on these platforms. Companies selling products to add security to cloud platforms save you the work as they would be a kind of framework you adapt to secure your code or encapsulate your work in their security. You need to do your due diligence at a technical level before you adopt a cloud platform and also how you will adapt security to it.
Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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In defense of these companies... Security is an ongoing endeavor. It is never one and done because people keep coming up with new ways to exploit things, and as long as technology progresses this will always be a thing. Ergo, in order for something to be secure, it takes ongoing effort. These seemingly ancillary companies do some of that work. They are part of the process of reification of the economic pressure for cloud security. And as long as that economic pressure exists, you can expect as much attention will be paid to security efforts in turn. In short, the existence of said companies is a good thing. That having been said, *nothing* is ever as secure as the marketers, advertisers and corporate officers would like you to believe.
Real programmers use butterflies
Similarly, no software is 100% bug free.
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Is someone lying here? Yes, both sides are lying. The cloud platforms aren't as secure as they'd like you to believe, and the companies selling products to secure it aren't securing it as much as they claim either.
Unfortunately, companies can't think of all the ways its software can be hacked. It must rely on the users and other nefarious players to find new ways to hack their software.
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But if cloud platforms are so secure out-of-the-box, how companies selling products to secure it make billions of dollars? Are we paranoid (and being used) or someone lying here?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
