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  • D David ONeil

    I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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    Super Lloyd
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    Good job! Only 3 more steps to go, that should barely take 81 years! :-D My own home take over the world project is a bit like that! :laugh:

    A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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    • D David ONeil

      I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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      Congrats...take a long rest.

      The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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        Good job! Only 3 more steps to go, that should barely take 81 years! :-D My own home take over the world project is a bit like that! :laugh:

        A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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        David ONeil
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        Super Lloyd wrote:

        Only 3 more steps to go, that should barely take 81 years! :-D

        So true! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: But the next steps will not be as hard as this one was!

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        • D David ONeil

          I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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          Ron Anders
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          I pump my fist and Go "Yes! Yes! Yes!" My wife will say "What?" and I'll tell here, she'll give me an atta-boy. That's about it.

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          • D David ONeil

            I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            If this is a personal project, take your wife out for a good meal. If this is a work project, convince your boss to take the team out. Either way, congratulations. (COVID-19 permitting)

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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            • D David ONeil

              I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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              Sounds like raising a kid. "27 years work, and I'm broke but happy"

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                Sounds like raising a kid. "27 years work, and I'm broke but happy"

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                Sounds like raising a kid. "27 years work, and I'm broke but happy"

                FFY.

                "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

                In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                • D David ONeil

                  I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  27 years! Normally I would have said a long well deserved vacation, but since you're broke I'd say a nice bottle of bourbon is probably a better choice. :(( :-\

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    Sounds like raising a kid. "27 years work, and I'm broke but happy"

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    It often felt like a child, demanding a lot of attention! Especially the book-writing part!

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                    • D David ONeil

                      It often felt like a child, demanding a lot of attention! Especially the book-writing part!

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                      What book writing part?

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        What book writing part?

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                        David ONeil
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                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        What book writing part?

                        ??? The part where I wrote a book. It was a lot more work than I expected, and took years to get it correct.

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                        • D David ONeil

                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          What book writing part?

                          ??? The part where I wrote a book. It was a lot more work than I expected, and took years to get it correct.

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                          You didn't mention you wrote one; I has to read it now. ISBN? I do proofreading; it is nigh impossible to be correct every time.

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                            You didn't mention you wrote one; I has to read it now. ISBN? I do proofreading; it is nigh impossible to be correct every time.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                            David ONeil
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                            It is in my profile page.

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                            • D David ONeil

                              It is in my profile page.

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                              Hi, I skimmed over your "The Creation Of God" video, I don't have time to watch the whole thing today. I have a question about your chapter "Jupitor/Saturn 60 pattern" where you make the claim that modern measuring of angles, geographic coordinates and time (sexagesimal system) were derived from observations of Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions. Could you explain your reason for believing this? Also, do you have any sources to reference? There are some logical reasons for using sexagesimal, it's superior to our modern decimal system in many ways. Base 60 was chosen because they were tracking celestial spheres and Base 60 allows you to make those calculations with integers (whole numbers). Are you making the claim that you have discovered Babylonian/Mesopotamian numeral systems other than Base60 being used before 3200BC? Thanks, -David Delaune P.S. I don't have time today but will try to watch your video tonight. I have to leave in a few minutes but will be back in a few hours.

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                                Hi, I skimmed over your "The Creation Of God" video, I don't have time to watch the whole thing today. I have a question about your chapter "Jupitor/Saturn 60 pattern" where you make the claim that modern measuring of angles, geographic coordinates and time (sexagesimal system) were derived from observations of Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions. Could you explain your reason for believing this? Also, do you have any sources to reference? There are some logical reasons for using sexagesimal, it's superior to our modern decimal system in many ways. Base 60 was chosen because they were tracking celestial spheres and Base 60 allows you to make those calculations with integers (whole numbers). Are you making the claim that you have discovered Babylonian/Mesopotamian numeral systems other than Base60 being used before 3200BC? Thanks, -David Delaune P.S. I don't have time today but will try to watch your video tonight. I have to leave in a few minutes but will be back in a few hours.

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                                There are several items supporting the fact that the sexagesimal system originated from astronomic observations of Jupiter and Saturn. One of them is the fact that back then, their language was syllabic (sp?), where each syllable represented a distinct concept ([Sumerian Lexicon](https://www.sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm)). Their word for 'sixty' was geš. The word for Saturn was 'gena', which incorporated the same 'ge'. 'gena' also meant 'constant, regular', reflecting the regularity/constancy of the celestial pattern by its use in geš, as well as the regularity of Saturn's own orbit. The greatest clue that '60' was linked to the sky is that it was known as the number for Anu, their sky god. Also, they counted out '60' in three 'twenties,' mirroring Jupiter and Saturn's twenty/sixty year pattern. And according to an Assyriologist who studied it,

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                                …[In Sumeria] the unit of 60 has been incorporated in a system of numeration which was still in the process of formation, which had already the unit of 10, but had not yet, had never had the unit of 100. The new unit seems to have found its entrance into usage prior to the rise of the academic speculation, which intervened later, not in order to change the base, but in order to coordinate the system. - Henry Thureau-Dangin, Sketch of a History of the Sexagesimal System

                                So those who think it came into existence because of the handiness of the 5/12 base systems are very wrong, although it make a nice story. Here's a quote from my book giving more insight:

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                                The French Assyriologist and Sumerologist F. Thureau-Dangin wrote about clay tablets using this system discovered in layer IV of the Uruk ruins in ancient Sumeria, dating them from 3300 to 3100 BC. The Cuneiform Digital Library Initiative says the most prominent area in Uruk at that time was a precinct called the “House of Heaven.” In other words, the priests watching the sky were the active investigators of those times.

                                In short, they found this number by watching the sky, and its usefulness became apparent upon using it, not from intellectual thoughts. I'm certain they first started using it simply because their 'gods' revealed the number to them, so they had to use it if that makes sense. They did not take the worship of their gods lightly back then. I hope this answers your question.

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                                • D David ONeil

                                  There are several items supporting the fact that the sexagesimal system originated from astronomic observations of Jupiter and Saturn. One of them is the fact that back then, their language was syllabic (sp?), where each syllable represented a distinct concept ([Sumerian Lexicon](https://www.sumerian.org/sumerlex.htm)). Their word for 'sixty' was geš. The word for Saturn was 'gena', which incorporated the same 'ge'. 'gena' also meant 'constant, regular', reflecting the regularity/constancy of the celestial pattern by its use in geš, as well as the regularity of Saturn's own orbit. The greatest clue that '60' was linked to the sky is that it was known as the number for Anu, their sky god. Also, they counted out '60' in three 'twenties,' mirroring Jupiter and Saturn's twenty/sixty year pattern. And according to an Assyriologist who studied it,

                                  Quote:

                                  …[In Sumeria] the unit of 60 has been incorporated in a system of numeration which was still in the process of formation, which had already the unit of 10, but had not yet, had never had the unit of 100. The new unit seems to have found its entrance into usage prior to the rise of the academic speculation, which intervened later, not in order to change the base, but in order to coordinate the system. - Henry Thureau-Dangin, Sketch of a History of the Sexagesimal System

                                  So those who think it came into existence because of the handiness of the 5/12 base systems are very wrong, although it make a nice story. Here's a quote from my book giving more insight:

                                  Quote:

                                  The French Assyriologist and Sumerologist F. Thureau-Dangin wrote about clay tablets using this system discovered in layer IV of the Uruk ruins in ancient Sumeria, dating them from 3300 to 3100 BC. The Cuneiform Digital Library Initiative says the most prominent area in Uruk at that time was a precinct called the “House of Heaven.” In other words, the priests watching the sky were the active investigators of those times.

                                  In short, they found this number by watching the sky, and its usefulness became apparent upon using it, not from intellectual thoughts. I'm certain they first started using it simply because their 'gods' revealed the number to them, so they had to use it if that makes sense. They did not take the worship of their gods lightly back then. I hope this answers your question.

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                                  Ok, I probably know more about the subject than I'm letting on. You might be right, the Mayans used a base20 system which the historians claim is "all fingers and toes" but could also be attributed to the Jupiter-Saturn cycle. Daniel Mansfield and Norman Wildberger from UNSW Sydney has made a few breakthroughs in Babylonian mathematics. I highly recommend them. Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322: The remarkable OB sexagesimal system - YouTube[^] Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322: Geometry in ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt - YouTube[^] This one contains new discoveries of how they did trig: Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322: A new understanding of the OB tablet Plimpton 322 - YouTube[^]

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                                    Ok, I probably know more about the subject than I'm letting on. You might be right, the Mayans used a base20 system which the historians claim is "all fingers and toes" but could also be attributed to the Jupiter-Saturn cycle. Daniel Mansfield and Norman Wildberger from UNSW Sydney has made a few breakthroughs in Babylonian mathematics. I highly recommend them. Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322: The remarkable OB sexagesimal system - YouTube[^] Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322: Geometry in ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt - YouTube[^] This one contains new discoveries of how they did trig: Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322: A new understanding of the OB tablet Plimpton 322 - YouTube[^]

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                                    Randor wrote:

                                    I probably know more about the subject than I'm letting on.

                                    That does not surprise me at all. You are probably the greatest intellect I've ever interacted with, and your breadth of knowledge blows me away. I've wished many times I could master facts as well as you, but my tinge of dyslexia makes that impossible, although I can put them in a database!

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                                    You might be right

                                    I have never seen anything that makes more sense of the facts than what I've just laid out. And when you see the six (of the 33) astronomic correlations that I've shared in the video, and my overview of the greater historic picture (none of which will surprise you, except for the Samson stuff), you might understand why I can't see anything that makes sense of more facts than what I've shown. If you want an overview of Samson scholarship, and have access, you can see the directions current scholarship has taken in Kelly Murphy's "Judges in Recent Reesearch". In it, I've never seen anything that directly mirrors the story. It is all psychobabble, although I may have overlooked something somewhere. Thank you for those video links! I had not bumped into them before, and am going to enjoy them for the next bit! Part of my 'celebrating completions!' :thumbsup:

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                                    • D David ONeil

                                      I just finished a major step in a 27 year project and am looking for ideas. They have to be cheap, since I'm broke. But I'm very happy! :)

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                                      dandy72
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                                      David O'Neil wrote:

                                      I just finished a major step in a 27 year project

                                      What are you working on, the Voyager probe???

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                                        David O'Neil wrote:

                                        I just finished a major step in a 27 year project

                                        What are you working on, the Voyager probe???

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                                        David ONeil
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                                        I came across a book back around 1994 that opened up a bunch of history that has been forgotten. It was a bunch of work, and I was wrong for a long time, because the book was wrong. But it was a start.

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                                        • D David ONeil

                                          I came across a book back around 1994 that opened up a bunch of history that has been forgotten. It was a bunch of work, and I was wrong for a long time, because the book was wrong. But it was a start.

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                                          David O'Neil wrote:

                                          I was wrong for a long time, because the book was wrong.

                                          ...so, the Holy Bible? :laugh:

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