Do you think it is possible for exoplanetary colonization?...
-
I love the optimism of you young whipper snappers, you all seem to think we will survive screwing up the planet we have :laugh:
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
They have surely seen WALL·E (2008) - IMDb[^] Hope never dies...
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
-
I love the optimism of you young whipper snappers, you all seem to think we will survive screwing up the planet we have :laugh:
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
Someone uses "Millenials Begone." :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
-
If so what Star System would best fit? I personally think the [TRAPPIST-1 System](https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/exo/#/system/TRAPPIST-1) would best fit, just the distance is the problem...
-
Customers are from the [B ark](https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan\_Ark\_Fleet\_Ship\_B).
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
-
I am fairly certain the rest of the cosmos does not want the human species leaving this planet to mess up other planets. We are a fairly efficient parasitic species, destroying everything in our path.
-
If so what Star System would best fit? I personally think the [TRAPPIST-1 System](https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/exo/#/system/TRAPPIST-1) would best fit, just the distance is the problem...
Come out of the colonial / colonization mindset. Instead, adopt the co-existence mindset. How can we co-exist with aliens, rather than colonizing them.
-
If so what Star System would best fit? I personally think the [TRAPPIST-1 System](https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/exo/#/system/TRAPPIST-1) would best fit, just the distance is the problem...
-
If so what Star System would best fit? I personally think the [TRAPPIST-1 System](https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/exo/#/system/TRAPPIST-1) would best fit, just the distance is the problem...
It amazes me how narrow minded scientists and engineers get. They always say "can't" when really they just haven't thought it through. Yes you could build a craft that would take you safely(ish). It would be a big craft, very big in fact, but we could build one now(ish) if the will was there. So previous calculations I did when I was bored and young and still remembered my first degree told me a radius of 3km and a length of around 6km would be ideal. The design would be a cigar shaped superstructure providing magnetic shielding, round disk shaped components providing accommodation, storage and everything else, the whole thing would be hollow down the central axis. Each of the saucer sections could leave the superstructure in sequence. A bit like the dream of a UFologist but with some badly thought out science behind it. Big problem is building the spacestation you will use to construct the star ship from - quite a few launches, 1000s in fact. I think it was 3000 I calculated. I think I also assumed you'd go off and mine an asteroid for the actual starship materials as a money saving measure. Do we have a government or eccentric billionaire willing to spend fortunes in launching 3000 missions to construct what is a very nice space station but essentially is nothing more than a big factory unit? OK lets say we do.... Main problem is time, it will take a long time, plus you will need to fire and forget pretty much and hope you aimed at a good target. Actually you won't your grandchildren need to hope that. Not sure how you would feed the populace, even allowing for some form of whacky most-of-the-passengers-in-suspended-animation state (which we might develop but might not in the same way as we might develop rocket boots but might not). LEDs are a good light source, power is a problem, you could interact with the solar wind whilst in the solar system and maybe get similar from the interstellar medium but you'd probably want to take a nuclear power station with you for emergencies and that has a whole range of its own problems. Speaking of radiation, it isn't the huge deal that the "we couldn't fly to Mars" negativists make it, Solar wind and in fact Galactic wind can be shielded - see above note about the spacecraft being very big - it needs to be very big. Gamma ray bursts would get you, so you'd want to avoid them, but you can't so why worry? Where? Somewhere close, it'll take about many years to get anywhere good so anywhere that will do.
-
It amazes me how narrow minded scientists and engineers get. They always say "can't" when really they just haven't thought it through. Yes you could build a craft that would take you safely(ish). It would be a big craft, very big in fact, but we could build one now(ish) if the will was there. So previous calculations I did when I was bored and young and still remembered my first degree told me a radius of 3km and a length of around 6km would be ideal. The design would be a cigar shaped superstructure providing magnetic shielding, round disk shaped components providing accommodation, storage and everything else, the whole thing would be hollow down the central axis. Each of the saucer sections could leave the superstructure in sequence. A bit like the dream of a UFologist but with some badly thought out science behind it. Big problem is building the spacestation you will use to construct the star ship from - quite a few launches, 1000s in fact. I think it was 3000 I calculated. I think I also assumed you'd go off and mine an asteroid for the actual starship materials as a money saving measure. Do we have a government or eccentric billionaire willing to spend fortunes in launching 3000 missions to construct what is a very nice space station but essentially is nothing more than a big factory unit? OK lets say we do.... Main problem is time, it will take a long time, plus you will need to fire and forget pretty much and hope you aimed at a good target. Actually you won't your grandchildren need to hope that. Not sure how you would feed the populace, even allowing for some form of whacky most-of-the-passengers-in-suspended-animation state (which we might develop but might not in the same way as we might develop rocket boots but might not). LEDs are a good light source, power is a problem, you could interact with the solar wind whilst in the solar system and maybe get similar from the interstellar medium but you'd probably want to take a nuclear power station with you for emergencies and that has a whole range of its own problems. Speaking of radiation, it isn't the huge deal that the "we couldn't fly to Mars" negativists make it, Solar wind and in fact Galactic wind can be shielded - see above note about the spacecraft being very big - it needs to be very big. Gamma ray bursts would get you, so you'd want to avoid them, but you can't so why worry? Where? Somewhere close, it'll take about many years to get anywhere good so anywhere that will do.
-
I am fairly certain the rest of the cosmos does not want the human species leaving this planet to mess up other planets. We are a fairly efficient parasitic species, destroying everything in our path.
Slacker007 wrote:
We are a fairly efficient parasitic species, destroying everything in our path.
All life is parasitic. Any lifeform anywhere in this universe is in a struggle for resources to survive and procreate, in an environment hostile to life, and use of those resources is inherently destructive. Any species that develops an intelligence sufficient to discover and use ways to alter its environment to aid itself in that struggle will end up doing the same things we have, making the same mistakes. That's life, and I see no reason to condemn the human race for living.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.