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    Craig Robbins
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    I replaced my 4 year old iPhone yesterday. Unlike the happy dancing people on TV, I do not get excited about a new device (PC, Phone, ...) The whole process of getting the new device set up to work just like the one it replaced is a series of slow, frustrating steps. Maybe showing once again that I'm old. :sigh:

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      I replaced my 4 year old iPhone yesterday. Unlike the happy dancing people on TV, I do not get excited about a new device (PC, Phone, ...) The whole process of getting the new device set up to work just like the one it replaced is a series of slow, frustrating steps. Maybe showing once again that I'm old. :sigh:

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      Craig Robbins wrote:

      that I'm old

      It's the mileage. I'm 33, I'm in computers since the late 90s, I lost the excitement for new equipment* in the 2010s, replaced by the frustration of setting it up. *Well, not lost lost, but it's definitely milder and temperated by the effort required.

      GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        I replaced my 4 year old iPhone yesterday. Unlike the happy dancing people on TV, I do not get excited about a new device (PC, Phone, ...) The whole process of getting the new device set up to work just like the one it replaced is a series of slow, frustrating steps. Maybe showing once again that I'm old. :sigh:

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        Sander Rossel
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        A new PC was great back in the day, when it meant your startup time got shorter by a few seconds, you could play the newest games, and you got a new OS that definitely looked better than the previous one (32 colors? 64 colors!? TRUE COLORS!?). Don't forget the bigger monitor with a better resolution that actually made a difference! And the switch from floppy to CD to CD-RW and DVD and Blu-Ray, or finally a USB! Back then a new PC meant you got something definitely better (well, save for Vista) :omg: A new PC now means it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one, you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance, but it'll cost you a day getting all your tools re-installed :sigh: A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          A new PC was great back in the day, when it meant your startup time got shorter by a few seconds, you could play the newest games, and you got a new OS that definitely looked better than the previous one (32 colors? 64 colors!? TRUE COLORS!?). Don't forget the bigger monitor with a better resolution that actually made a difference! And the switch from floppy to CD to CD-RW and DVD and Blu-Ray, or finally a USB! Back then a new PC meant you got something definitely better (well, save for Vista) :omg: A new PC now means it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one, you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance, but it'll cost you a day getting all your tools re-installed :sigh: A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

          Crying in 150% magnification with 1920x1080 on a 22" screen.

          GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            A new PC was great back in the day, when it meant your startup time got shorter by a few seconds, you could play the newest games, and you got a new OS that definitely looked better than the previous one (32 colors? 64 colors!? TRUE COLORS!?). Don't forget the bigger monitor with a better resolution that actually made a difference! And the switch from floppy to CD to CD-RW and DVD and Blu-Ray, or finally a USB! Back then a new PC meant you got something definitely better (well, save for Vista) :omg: A new PC now means it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one, you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance, but it'll cost you a day getting all your tools re-installed :sigh: A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

            Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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            Haven't bought a new desktop machine this century, I think. Do they still have that "new computer" smell?? :rose:

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              Haven't bought a new desktop machine this century, I think. Do they still have that "new computer" smell?? :rose:

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              OriginalGriff
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              Likewise. I have bought new bits for the existing one though: an extra monitor here, a better graphics card there. A new SSD; a new motherboard, processor and ram; a new case; a new PSU; a new keyboard; ... But at least two electrons are still original. Probably. And I suspect there are still bits of the original Win XP installation in there somewhere!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                A new PC was great back in the day, when it meant your startup time got shorter by a few seconds, you could play the newest games, and you got a new OS that definitely looked better than the previous one (32 colors? 64 colors!? TRUE COLORS!?). Don't forget the bigger monitor with a better resolution that actually made a difference! And the switch from floppy to CD to CD-RW and DVD and Blu-Ray, or finally a USB! Back then a new PC meant you got something definitely better (well, save for Vista) :omg: A new PC now means it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one, you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance, but it'll cost you a day getting all your tools re-installed :sigh: A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                CodeWraith
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                ...you could play the newest games...

                I can do that with my old box as well, so why buy a new one at all? And I think I will now jump into my Marauder and go visit the Capellans. What a shame if I could only do thet when I buy a new computer.

                I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  A new PC was great back in the day, when it meant your startup time got shorter by a few seconds, you could play the newest games, and you got a new OS that definitely looked better than the previous one (32 colors? 64 colors!? TRUE COLORS!?). Don't forget the bigger monitor with a better resolution that actually made a difference! And the switch from floppy to CD to CD-RW and DVD and Blu-Ray, or finally a USB! Back then a new PC meant you got something definitely better (well, save for Vista) :omg: A new PC now means it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one, you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance, but it'll cost you a day getting all your tools re-installed :sigh: A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

                  Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one

                  That's how it should be. Means that there's no learning curve. :thumbsup: There was never any value in changing the look of buttons; it just wasted money.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    A new PC was great back in the day, when it meant your startup time got shorter by a few seconds, you could play the newest games, and you got a new OS that definitely looked better than the previous one (32 colors? 64 colors!? TRUE COLORS!?). Don't forget the bigger monitor with a better resolution that actually made a difference! And the switch from floppy to CD to CD-RW and DVD and Blu-Ray, or finally a USB! Back then a new PC meant you got something definitely better (well, save for Vista) :omg: A new PC now means it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one, you probably won't notice a huge difference in performance, but it'll cost you a day getting all your tools re-installed :sigh: A new resolution just means your code doesn't end at 3/4 of your screen, but halfway.

                    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                    I think too, getting a new machine was somewhat more personal, at least for a pc. You bought the chassis, power supply, various cards and drives. You got to configure it the way you wanted and you were more intimately aware of what you had. Now you order a box or laptop, it arrives all assembled. You just use it. (And yes I am aware you can still build your own, but it isnt the same experience either).

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                      I replaced my 4 year old iPhone yesterday. Unlike the happy dancing people on TV, I do not get excited about a new device (PC, Phone, ...) The whole process of getting the new device set up to work just like the one it replaced is a series of slow, frustrating steps. Maybe showing once again that I'm old. :sigh:

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                      DrWalter PE
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                      I resemble that remark. I recently upgraded my iPhone 8 to iPhone13 and i can't seem to find everything I used to use.

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                        I resemble that remark. I recently upgraded my iPhone 8 to iPhone13 and i can't seem to find everything I used to use.

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                        Ditto. Iphone 7 to iphone 13 pro

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                          Likewise. I have bought new bits for the existing one though: an extra monitor here, a better graphics card there. A new SSD; a new motherboard, processor and ram; a new case; a new PSU; a new keyboard; ... But at least two electrons are still original. Probably. And I suspect there are still bits of the original Win XP installation in there somewhere!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          If you ran the lurking “System Restore”, it would not recognize any of the newer components.

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                            Ditto. Iphone 7 to iphone 13 pro

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                            Got it straightened out at local Apple store. Found a lady who redid the complete transfer. Miss the thumb button.

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                              I replaced my 4 year old iPhone yesterday. Unlike the happy dancing people on TV, I do not get excited about a new device (PC, Phone, ...) The whole process of getting the new device set up to work just like the one it replaced is a series of slow, frustrating steps. Maybe showing once again that I'm old. :sigh:

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                              Craig Robbins wrote:

                              The whole process of getting the new device set up to work just like the one it replaced is a series of slow, frustrating steps

                              I had to replace the wife's android phone a couple of weeks ago. The whole operation of transferring old to new phone was done in less than 15min. I really do not understand why people keep buying iPhones.

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                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                it has a new OS that looks and feels pretty much like the old one

                                That's how it should be. Means that there's no learning curve. :thumbsup: There was never any value in changing the look of buttons; it just wasted money.

                                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                That's how it should be. Means that there's no learning curve

                                It also means there's nothing new and you might as well stick to your current OS :| I remember going from Windows 95 to 98 and from 98 to XP and it looked so much better (not to mention 3.1 to 95, except I never had my own 3.1). But sure, you just go on ahead using 95 because why ever change? :rolleyes:

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                                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                                  ...you could play the newest games...

                                  I can do that with my old box as well, so why buy a new one at all? And I think I will now jump into my Marauder and go visit the Capellans. What a shame if I could only do thet when I buy a new computer.

                                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                  How so? Games get a lot more complex and so do computers, you can't expect a 20 year old PC to run the newest games :~ I remember getting a new PC so I could play Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mass Effect and about six years later another new PC so I could play Skyrim. Back then pretty much all my PC's specs at least doubled. I could probably still play most of the newest games on the Skyrim PC, although not on its highest settings. If I buy a new PC now I probably have the same amount of memory, storage, etc. as five years ago.

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                                    Likewise. I have bought new bits for the existing one though: an extra monitor here, a better graphics card there. A new SSD; a new motherboard, processor and ram; a new case; a new PSU; a new keyboard; ... But at least two electrons are still original. Probably. And I suspect there are still bits of the original Win XP installation in there somewhere!

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    Sounds like Trigger’s brush in Only Fools and Horses 😂

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      That's how it should be. Means that there's no learning curve

                                      It also means there's nothing new and you might as well stick to your current OS :| I remember going from Windows 95 to 98 and from 98 to XP and it looked so much better (not to mention 3.1 to 95, except I never had my own 3.1). But sure, you just go on ahead using 95 because why ever change? :rolleyes:

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                                      Changing the looks doesn't make it "new". Just different. It did nothing for us, it was simply different make up on the same pig. ..but there are things that make huge differences; like the move from 16 to 32 bits. All I need now is a multiplayer version of "Pirates! Gold".

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        How so? Games get a lot more complex and so do computers, you can't expect a 20 year old PC to run the newest games :~ I remember getting a new PC so I could play Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mass Effect and about six years later another new PC so I could play Skyrim. Back then pretty much all my PC's specs at least doubled. I could probably still play most of the newest games on the Skyrim PC, although not on its highest settings. If I buy a new PC now I probably have the same amount of memory, storage, etc. as five years ago.

                                        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                        CodeWraith
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                                        My PC may be around 12 years old, but it still keeps up. Only one of the drives and the graphics card failed at some point and had to be replaced, the rest is still the original configuration. But it's true, the times when every new box had some fundamentally new capabilities compared to the older computers are now over. One more reason to like the old boxes. At least they had strengths and weaknesses that distinguished them from all others.

                                        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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