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Win11 mail client hates my guts

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  • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

    I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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    I hate that app. It's typical UWP "no-think" development. One handy windows feature was right click, then "Send to email recipient". You could directly send a picture by email if you had a client installed. Output Express, say. But ... along comes the new improved Mail app and "sod that - I don't talk to no-one, bitches". Minimalist is OK ... but it has to be balanced against functionality. That's one reason I dislike Teslas* - in the name of minimalism (and probably cost cutting) everything is done via the tablet. Including the air con / heating. So you have to look at the tablet while you navigate to the right screen, find the right control on that screen, and tap it. And hope you survive your trip into the ditch. Separate physical controls make it a lot easier sometimes! * Another is the "fart jokes". OK, I'm still a child, I laugh when the ketchup bottle farts. But in a car? That's just puerile, not funny.

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    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

      I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      honey the codewitch wrote:

      There's a reason I don't own a firearm.

      I literally laughed out loud at that. I do own a firearm or two, but not for reasons involving my frustrations with software. Microsoft lost me in the email client game when they dropped the one that came with 7 (or Vista or XP, I don't remember). I only use gmail (though I hate the goog and refuse to use their search engine) or a web client provided by my ISP.

      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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        honey the codewitch wrote:

        There's a reason I don't own a firearm.

        I literally laughed out loud at that. I do own a firearm or two, but not for reasons involving my frustrations with software. Microsoft lost me in the email client game when they dropped the one that came with 7 (or Vista or XP, I don't remember). I only use gmail (though I hate the goog and refuse to use their search engine) or a web client provided by my ISP.

        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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        honey the codewitch
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        My hubby is pretty serious about his firearms. I try not to make too much fun of him for his "tactical" gear.

        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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        • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

          I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

          To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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          lmoelleb
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          They have it in Outlook as well. First thing I do is turn that crap off, so luckily I never found out how buggy it is.

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          • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

            I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            Every morning i get emails from Microsoft Viva with the subject "Your daily briefing" or "Your digest email" (i have no clue what Viva is). I got one today and one of the links was saying "insert Some person name" 3 days ago they asked "insert the subject of an email i received 3 days ago". The link then had 2 buttons with word "Done" on button one and button 2 had the word "Remind me". We finished our email exchanges with said person on the same day i received their first email (3 days ago) I wonder why i should now be getting this kind email and what i should do with it :zzz: Its content is always just total trash.

            "Coming soon"

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            • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

              I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

              To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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              obermd
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              That focused/other split was added to Outlook a couple of years ago. It's allegedly for those who have problems managing their inboxes but the reality is they now claim you never sent them the email you have a delivery receipt for.

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              • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

                To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                Hates everybody, not just you.

                >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                  I use the standard win10/win11 mail client because I hate installing software, and I like things that are minimalist. In Win11 however, they've "added features." You know what that means, particularly where it concerns microsoft - it means the new feature is awful and would be awful even if it worked, which it doesn't, of course. The feature I'm talking about is the "Focused|Other" split in the Inbox now. Windows uses magic to decide which emails should be "focused" and which ones "shouldn't". Because somebody at MS thought that sorting your email through some means they didn't tell you about would be fantastic. There's a reason I don't own a firearm. The not working part? Well, when you click on Focused or Other, windows makes a dice roll, and if you roll too low, it fails to respond to your click and you have to close the mail client and open it again. I can't be the only one experiencing this. Yet, no matter how I try to describe the problem to google, I get those cookie cutter "fix your computer by restarting it. if that doesn't work buy a new computer" websites that are thoroughly unhelpful.

                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                  Thunderbird - went from Outlook to Mail to Google, all of which pissed me off one way or another, quite happy with Thunderbird!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Thunderbird - went from Outlook to Mail to Google, all of which pissed me off one way or another, quite happy with Thunderbird!

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                    ditto

                    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                    • T TNCaver

                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      There's a reason I don't own a firearm.

                      I literally laughed out loud at that. I do own a firearm or two, but not for reasons involving my frustrations with software. Microsoft lost me in the email client game when they dropped the one that came with 7 (or Vista or XP, I don't remember). I only use gmail (though I hate the goog and refuse to use their search engine) or a web client provided by my ISP.

                      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                      If you really want secure and easy to use No Firearm Needed Try Proton Mail FREE I have used this product for 3 years and never one spam email

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