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    Watching system usage, it blows my mind how much differently programs work. Right now Vivaldi has over sixty tabs open (way too much, even for me), and Task Manager shows ~1 GB. Firefox only has 3 tabs open, and it is at 1.8 GB. Even though 2 of those are for Facebook, the difference still seems staggering. Just for curiosity's sake, I shut down FF, and reopened it. Without clicking on any other tabs, it still shot up to the same memory usage as Vivaldi. Clicking on the other tabs took it up to 1.2 GB, and scrolling FB quickly added another 100+ MB to it. I see many people praising FF, but I still remember the old problems with it, including ever-expanding memory usage. It doesn't seem like the underlying memory usage has really been addressed, even after all these years. Out of curiosity, I opened Vivaldi in Windows Sandbox, with the same 3 tabs. The memory usage was half that of FF. Firefox, I do wish you well. But it would be nice to see better engineering behind the scenes.

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      Watching system usage, it blows my mind how much differently programs work. Right now Vivaldi has over sixty tabs open (way too much, even for me), and Task Manager shows ~1 GB. Firefox only has 3 tabs open, and it is at 1.8 GB. Even though 2 of those are for Facebook, the difference still seems staggering. Just for curiosity's sake, I shut down FF, and reopened it. Without clicking on any other tabs, it still shot up to the same memory usage as Vivaldi. Clicking on the other tabs took it up to 1.2 GB, and scrolling FB quickly added another 100+ MB to it. I see many people praising FF, but I still remember the old problems with it, including ever-expanding memory usage. It doesn't seem like the underlying memory usage has really been addressed, even after all these years. Out of curiosity, I opened Vivaldi in Windows Sandbox, with the same 3 tabs. The memory usage was half that of FF. Firefox, I do wish you well. But it would be nice to see better engineering behind the scenes.

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      Meanwhile, Chrome is like "Oh, I see you have 32GB of RAM... It would be a shame if something happened to it..."

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        Meanwhile, Chrome is like "Oh, I see you have 32GB of RAM... It would be a shame if something happened to it..."

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        In the old days, Chrome was an absolute pig. I now have a Chrome window open with only 7 tabs, and it is far more memory efficient than FF would be, at only 472 MB. Chrome has done wonders with memory efficiency compared to FF, in my experience. But it seems the folks at Vivaldi have taken Chrome's base and polished the heck out of it. They have performed an absolutely impressive feat, especially with the additional tools they have given us, like command chains.

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          Watching system usage, it blows my mind how much differently programs work. Right now Vivaldi has over sixty tabs open (way too much, even for me), and Task Manager shows ~1 GB. Firefox only has 3 tabs open, and it is at 1.8 GB. Even though 2 of those are for Facebook, the difference still seems staggering. Just for curiosity's sake, I shut down FF, and reopened it. Without clicking on any other tabs, it still shot up to the same memory usage as Vivaldi. Clicking on the other tabs took it up to 1.2 GB, and scrolling FB quickly added another 100+ MB to it. I see many people praising FF, but I still remember the old problems with it, including ever-expanding memory usage. It doesn't seem like the underlying memory usage has really been addressed, even after all these years. Out of curiosity, I opened Vivaldi in Windows Sandbox, with the same 3 tabs. The memory usage was half that of FF. Firefox, I do wish you well. But it would be nice to see better engineering behind the scenes.

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          What irritates me about FF is that they never fix security vulnerabilities. We use Rapid7's InsightVM at work and even after updating Firefox, the same security vulnerabilities reappear. Chrome and Edge both fix security vulnerabilities. From this perspective I have banned FF from our work machines except for our marketing folks who have to test web-site updates in as many browsers as possible.

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            What irritates me about FF is that they never fix security vulnerabilities. We use Rapid7's InsightVM at work and even after updating Firefox, the same security vulnerabilities reappear. Chrome and Edge both fix security vulnerabilities. From this perspective I have banned FF from our work machines except for our marketing folks who have to test web-site updates in as many browsers as possible.

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            Sad to hear that. I like the idea of Firefox being an independent web browser, but things like this make it hard to take seriously.

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