Apple has till 2024 to dump Lightning
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The EU Parliament is expected to pass a rule requiring a single small device connector. This will apply to tablets, digital cameras, headphones, portable game consoles, e-readers starting in 2024. Laptop computers will be forced to comply at a later date. Except for Apple, the rest of the industry has settled on USB-C, meaning this rule will force everyone to USB-C. Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
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The EU Parliament is expected to pass a rule requiring a single small device connector. This will apply to tablets, digital cameras, headphones, portable game consoles, e-readers starting in 2024. Laptop computers will be forced to comply at a later date. Except for Apple, the rest of the industry has settled on USB-C, meaning this rule will force everyone to USB-C. Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
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The EU Parliament is expected to pass a rule requiring a single small device connector. This will apply to tablets, digital cameras, headphones, portable game consoles, e-readers starting in 2024. Laptop computers will be forced to comply at a later date. Except for Apple, the rest of the industry has settled on USB-C, meaning this rule will force everyone to USB-C. Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
I read that as, "we don't want you to throw away cables, so throw away all your cables".
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The EU Parliament is expected to pass a rule requiring a single small device connector. This will apply to tablets, digital cameras, headphones, portable game consoles, e-readers starting in 2024. Laptop computers will be forced to comply at a later date. Except for Apple, the rest of the industry has settled on USB-C, meaning this rule will force everyone to USB-C. Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
Apple are complaining, saying it "stifles innovation". Which is rich, since they are dead against other companies innovating with Lightning connectors ... :laugh: It's a good idea: anything which reduces the number of damn chargers and connectors I have to play with ... My phone is USB-C, but my Surface won't charge through its USB-C connector, just the MS power thingy. And the keyboard on the Surface charges through a micro USB, while my camera uses a bigger micro USB ... And trehg cat chews on all of them indiscriminately. :sigh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Apple are complaining, saying it "stifles innovation". Which is rich, since they are dead against other companies innovating with Lightning connectors ... :laugh: It's a good idea: anything which reduces the number of damn chargers and connectors I have to play with ... My phone is USB-C, but my Surface won't charge through its USB-C connector, just the MS power thingy. And the keyboard on the Surface charges through a micro USB, while my camera uses a bigger micro USB ... And trehg cat chews on all of them indiscriminately. :sigh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The EU Parliament is expected to pass a rule requiring a single small device connector. This will apply to tablets, digital cameras, headphones, portable game consoles, e-readers starting in 2024. Laptop computers will be forced to comply at a later date. Except for Apple, the rest of the industry has settled on USB-C, meaning this rule will force everyone to USB-C. Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
obermd wrote:
Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
I never looked into this, but just how much power is wasted by wireless charging systems? Efficiency can't be 100%... Of course I'm not suggesting getting rid of cables that aren't strictly needed isn't a good idea...
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Just curious... what's the EU protocol in a couple years when someone (not just Apple) comes up with a theoretically better connector? I'm not a big fan of government (particularly unelected bureaucrats) designing my tech.
Your guess is as good as mine - but it specifically excludes wireless charging, and I'd imagine that will become more prevalent anyway. Hopefully, that will get standardized as well, so Apple can't introduce a special charger pad that is essential for their phones ... And if you think about it, governments already legislate mains electricity connectors and they haven't needed to change for a long time (the UK ones did - they went from a round pin plug to a square pin, shuttered, and fused plug in 1947 but haven't changed significantly since then). It's likely that USB-C will last a few decades at least!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Your guess is as good as mine - but it specifically excludes wireless charging, and I'd imagine that will become more prevalent anyway. Hopefully, that will get standardized as well, so Apple can't introduce a special charger pad that is essential for their phones ... And if you think about it, governments already legislate mains electricity connectors and they haven't needed to change for a long time (the UK ones did - they went from a round pin plug to a square pin, shuttered, and fused plug in 1947 but haven't changed significantly since then). It's likely that USB-C will last a few decades at least!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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obermd wrote:
Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
I never looked into this, but just how much power is wasted by wireless charging systems? Efficiency can't be 100%... Of course I'm not suggesting getting rid of cables that aren't strictly needed isn't a good idea...
A quick Google reports efficiency of 50-75% when comparing wireless to wired charging. Personally I prefer wireless charging because it greatly reduces wear and tear on the connector on the phone. Others have pointed out that some manufacturers (Apple included) have or are considering wireless charging-only models.
Software Zen:
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A quick Google reports efficiency of 50-75% when comparing wireless to wired charging. Personally I prefer wireless charging because it greatly reduces wear and tear on the connector on the phone. Others have pointed out that some manufacturers (Apple included) have or are considering wireless charging-only models.
Software Zen:
delete this;One key disadvantage of wireless charging that had me abandoning it is the impossibility to use the phone while in charge, even setting/resetting alarm clocks or checking the weather forecasts will end up with a disconnection. This will mess up the battery on the long run. Also I can't read my Kindle Unlimited for 16 hours straight this way :D though I might bite the bullet and buy a dedicted reader, having ebooks on the phone means I can read anywhere anytime - waiting for my wife outside of a cosmetic shop? Waiting for the tube? Waiting for my order at a restaurant? I can cram a chapter or two there!
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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A quick Google reports efficiency of 50-75% when comparing wireless to wired charging. Personally I prefer wireless charging because it greatly reduces wear and tear on the connector on the phone. Others have pointed out that some manufacturers (Apple included) have or are considering wireless charging-only models.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
efficiency of 50-75% when comparing wireless to wired charging
That's nothing short of terrible. Now imagine everything going wireless. Demand is increasing all the time, capacity not so much. So basically we'd need to double capacity just to go wireless.
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Just curious... what's the EU protocol in a couple years when someone (not just Apple) comes up with a theoretically better connector? I'm not a big fan of government (particularly unelected bureaucrats) designing my tech.
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One key disadvantage of wireless charging that had me abandoning it is the impossibility to use the phone while in charge, even setting/resetting alarm clocks or checking the weather forecasts will end up with a disconnection. This will mess up the battery on the long run. Also I can't read my Kindle Unlimited for 16 hours straight this way :D though I might bite the bullet and buy a dedicted reader, having ebooks on the phone means I can read anywhere anytime - waiting for my wife outside of a cosmetic shop? Waiting for the tube? Waiting for my order at a restaurant? I can cram a chapter or two there!
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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obermd wrote:
Wireless charging and data connections are exempt from this rule as these systems don't generate the e-waste that cables generate.
I never looked into this, but just how much power is wasted by wireless charging systems? Efficiency can't be 100%... Of course I'm not suggesting getting rid of cables that aren't strictly needed isn't a good idea...
