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    Joan M
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    Hi all, In a few months we will move to another house. There we will have much more space and two floors. I know WIFI won't be able to reach all rooms in both floors. As I need a working phone landline connected to my router (please don't ask), I think my best bet is to keep the carrier router and then add an external mesh system. Is that possible? I guess I should disable the router wifi and then connect the mesh to the router using an ethernet cable, but... will I loose something? is this a good setup? Any recommendation? do you have any mesh system that you would recommend? Thank you in advance!

    www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      Hi all, In a few months we will move to another house. There we will have much more space and two floors. I know WIFI won't be able to reach all rooms in both floors. As I need a working phone landline connected to my router (please don't ask), I think my best bet is to keep the carrier router and then add an external mesh system. Is that possible? I guess I should disable the router wifi and then connect the mesh to the router using an ethernet cable, but... will I loose something? is this a good setup? Any recommendation? do you have any mesh system that you would recommend? Thank you in advance!

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      Joan M wrote:

      I should disable the router Wi-Fi and then connect the mesh to the router using an ethernet cable

      This should work; I use a similar system at home. The main thing that you might lose is the ability of the carrier to troubleshoot your Wi-Fi setting (if they provide such an option). It also ensures that someone eavesdropping on your router will not be able to see traffic on the internal Wi-Fi network - only the data that goes to/from the Internet. The main thing to check is the speed of the Ethernet ports on the carrier's router. Older routers only support up to 100 Mbps, so if this speed is lower than that of your carrier package - upgrade the router! I can't give any recommendations; my equipment is a couple of years old, and I don't know what's available these days.

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        Hi all, In a few months we will move to another house. There we will have much more space and two floors. I know WIFI won't be able to reach all rooms in both floors. As I need a working phone landline connected to my router (please don't ask), I think my best bet is to keep the carrier router and then add an external mesh system. Is that possible? I guess I should disable the router wifi and then connect the mesh to the router using an ethernet cable, but... will I loose something? is this a good setup? Any recommendation? do you have any mesh system that you would recommend? Thank you in advance!

        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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        DaveAuld
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        Amplifi HD system works well. (I have the older version, and main box + 4 mesh points), connected back to the providers router.

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          Joan M wrote:

          I should disable the router Wi-Fi and then connect the mesh to the router using an ethernet cable

          This should work; I use a similar system at home. The main thing that you might lose is the ability of the carrier to troubleshoot your Wi-Fi setting (if they provide such an option). It also ensures that someone eavesdropping on your router will not be able to see traffic on the internal Wi-Fi network - only the data that goes to/from the Internet. The main thing to check is the speed of the Ethernet ports on the carrier's router. Older routers only support up to 100 Mbps, so if this speed is lower than that of your carrier package - upgrade the router! I can't give any recommendations; my equipment is a couple of years old, and I don't know what's available these days.

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          Joan M
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          Thanks Daniel, I thought it would work, but wanted to ask to be sure before buying anything. I will keep searching for a good device to use. Thanks!

          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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            Amplifi HD system works well. (I have the older version, and main box + 4 mesh points), connected back to the providers router.

            Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
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            Joan M
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            Seen the documentation in their web site and it looks very interesting. Thanks for recommending it. In Amazon I've seen this in one review:

            1. You can not access the logs of what is happening on your wi-fi network. You can not see if someone is trying to attack your system or if you have a misconfigured device causing issues. The logs can only be viewed by the development team of the company, and they refuse to decrypt it and send it back to the customer. They may answer some vague question, but I have been trying for over a month now to find out if my neighbor is still trying to hack my wi-fi with only "i'm sorry we can't give you that" as answers.
            2. The application can reach the AP through your firewall without you being able to configure any additional security. That means your network is connected to their hub, which is outside of your control and collecting unknown data. So it could be collecting passwords or system information. With them hiding the logs, you can not know for sure.

            The Amplify over allis a great device. The secrecy and resistance to allow access to the system logs, and the connection to their service without any way to opt out gives me great pause. I have had to make changes to my firewall to block the ports and traffic it sends across the net. This makes any updates almost impossible, but I really do not want my pictures and personal documents I access over the wi-fi leaking out because of their poor security and shady business model.

            As you have one, do you agree that?

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              Seen the documentation in their web site and it looks very interesting. Thanks for recommending it. In Amazon I've seen this in one review:

              1. You can not access the logs of what is happening on your wi-fi network. You can not see if someone is trying to attack your system or if you have a misconfigured device causing issues. The logs can only be viewed by the development team of the company, and they refuse to decrypt it and send it back to the customer. They may answer some vague question, but I have been trying for over a month now to find out if my neighbor is still trying to hack my wi-fi with only "i'm sorry we can't give you that" as answers.
              2. The application can reach the AP through your firewall without you being able to configure any additional security. That means your network is connected to their hub, which is outside of your control and collecting unknown data. So it could be collecting passwords or system information. With them hiding the logs, you can not know for sure.

              The Amplify over allis a great device. The secrecy and resistance to allow access to the system logs, and the connection to their service without any way to opt out gives me great pause. I have had to make changes to my firewall to block the ports and traffic it sends across the net. This makes any updates almost impossible, but I really do not want my pictures and personal documents I access over the wi-fi leaking out because of their poor security and shady business model.

              As you have one, do you agree that?

              www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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              DaveAuld
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              It is probably a fair point, no logs. They have clearly tried to make this device as consumer friendly and just work, which it does. They have added some additional features that are accessibly via a web browser to see connected devices and network topology and where all the devices are connecting into the network and transfers, I use that quite a bit. The Viewport also works, I have used that a couple of times, effectively a VPN back into your network from anywhere that is easy to turn on/configure. As I am away a lot, wanted something simple for the rental home use. If I was there all the time (i.e. my property), I would probably go down the Ubiquiti UniFi mesh route, although a lot more expensive option. (my UK home is kitted out with Ubiquiti edgerouter, switch and AC WiFi points) I guess it is what you want from systems, I have had many wifi routers over the years, and I could say the same for them, that log / diagnostic features is poor, unless you go more semi-pro / enterprise level. So, see the Amplifi no different to those, the difference being, it works so much better than typical consumer hardware. The guest WiFi feature is also great, people coming round/kids wanting access to the network, you can turn on guest mode which segregates off the internet access from home network and you don't have to give them any wifi password. No devices cluttering up and no access to you local hardware.

              Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
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                It is probably a fair point, no logs. They have clearly tried to make this device as consumer friendly and just work, which it does. They have added some additional features that are accessibly via a web browser to see connected devices and network topology and where all the devices are connecting into the network and transfers, I use that quite a bit. The Viewport also works, I have used that a couple of times, effectively a VPN back into your network from anywhere that is easy to turn on/configure. As I am away a lot, wanted something simple for the rental home use. If I was there all the time (i.e. my property), I would probably go down the Ubiquiti UniFi mesh route, although a lot more expensive option. (my UK home is kitted out with Ubiquiti edgerouter, switch and AC WiFi points) I guess it is what you want from systems, I have had many wifi routers over the years, and I could say the same for them, that log / diagnostic features is poor, unless you go more semi-pro / enterprise level. So, see the Amplifi no different to those, the difference being, it works so much better than typical consumer hardware. The guest WiFi feature is also great, people coming round/kids wanting access to the network, you can turn on guest mode which segregates off the internet access from home network and you don't have to give them any wifi password. No devices cluttering up and no access to you local hardware.

                Dave Dave's Astrophotography Channel
                Find Me On:Web|Youtube|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn Folding Stats: Team CodeProject

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                Joan M
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                Wonderful, thank you very much. :thumbsup:

                www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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