Calling Mister Hardware
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G'Day Roger, I hope the fishing went well today. Yes I know you don't actually wake up for another 50 minutes or so, stop being so pedantic. I have a hardware question for you which I hope you can help me on. I got my hands (legally) on a second hand machine for my wife. AOpen case, GA-6VTE+ motherboard, Pentium III 733MHz CPU, 256MB Kingmax PC133 SDRAM, 10GB HDD (got another identical one in the cupboard), 32MB AGP card, internal modem, NIC, SCSI, CD-RW. All for $200.00, problem is the power switch is missing. I believe these are mometary switches, and plan to buy or make one instead of buying a new case as I'm doing this on the cheap. I have searched around and found this[^]. I am hoping I can use it to make the switch I need. I plan to rip out a front panel wire from one of the useless shells at work, one with a two pin plastic connector at the end. Then just solder the wires to the two probes on the back of the switch. What in my amazing plan have I missed? Why will it blow up in my face? What would you do if faced with this catostrophic problem? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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G'Day Roger, I hope the fishing went well today. Yes I know you don't actually wake up for another 50 minutes or so, stop being so pedantic. I have a hardware question for you which I hope you can help me on. I got my hands (legally) on a second hand machine for my wife. AOpen case, GA-6VTE+ motherboard, Pentium III 733MHz CPU, 256MB Kingmax PC133 SDRAM, 10GB HDD (got another identical one in the cupboard), 32MB AGP card, internal modem, NIC, SCSI, CD-RW. All for $200.00, problem is the power switch is missing. I believe these are mometary switches, and plan to buy or make one instead of buying a new case as I'm doing this on the cheap. I have searched around and found this[^]. I am hoping I can use it to make the switch I need. I plan to rip out a front panel wire from one of the useless shells at work, one with a two pin plastic connector at the end. Then just solder the wires to the two probes on the back of the switch. What in my amazing plan have I missed? Why will it blow up in my face? What would you do if faced with this catostrophic problem? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
I don't see any problem with this at all, Michael. I assume that this is a ATX case and MB, so you don't have to be concerned about large currents, and the 3A rating is much more than adequate. Using an SPST switch, polarity is not a problem, either, so there's very little that can go wrong. I don't see any mention of it, but I assume that the switch you selected is a normally open type - there isn't much call for a normally closed momentary action switch. Have fun!
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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G'Day Roger, I hope the fishing went well today. Yes I know you don't actually wake up for another 50 minutes or so, stop being so pedantic. I have a hardware question for you which I hope you can help me on. I got my hands (legally) on a second hand machine for my wife. AOpen case, GA-6VTE+ motherboard, Pentium III 733MHz CPU, 256MB Kingmax PC133 SDRAM, 10GB HDD (got another identical one in the cupboard), 32MB AGP card, internal modem, NIC, SCSI, CD-RW. All for $200.00, problem is the power switch is missing. I believe these are mometary switches, and plan to buy or make one instead of buying a new case as I'm doing this on the cheap. I have searched around and found this[^]. I am hoping I can use it to make the switch I need. I plan to rip out a front panel wire from one of the useless shells at work, one with a two pin plastic connector at the end. Then just solder the wires to the two probes on the back of the switch. What in my amazing plan have I missed? Why will it blow up in my face? What would you do if faced with this catostrophic problem? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: I got my hands (legally) on a second hand machine for my wife. AOpen case, GA-6VTE+ motherboard, Pentium III 733MHz CPU, 256MB Kingmax PC133 SDRAM, 10GB HDD (got another identical one in the cupboard), 32MB AGP card, internal modem, NIC, SCSI, CD-RW. All for $200.00, Only 200, man I wish I could find deals like that Matt Newman Post best viewed with lynx
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I don't see any problem with this at all, Michael. I assume that this is a ATX case and MB, so you don't have to be concerned about large currents, and the 3A rating is much more than adequate. Using an SPST switch, polarity is not a problem, either, so there's very little that can go wrong. I don't see any mention of it, but I assume that the switch you selected is a normally open type - there isn't much call for a normally closed momentary action switch. Have fun!
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: Using an SPST switch, polarity is not a problem, either, so there's very little that can go wrong. I don't see any mention of it, but I assume that the switch you selected is a normally open type - there isn't much call for a normally closed momentary action switch. It is. Roger Wright wrote: I don't see any problem with this at all, Michael. I assume that this is a ATX case and MB, so you don't have to be concerned about large currents, and the 3A rating is much more than adequate. Wouldn't have a clue, I picked what looked like the smallest plainest switch that should fit behind the front panel of the case. I decided I didn't need any LED's or fancy crap like that. I will ask the bloke down the store what type it is before I buy it. Roger Wright wrote: Have fun! I'm sure I will. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Michael Martin wrote: I got my hands (legally) on a second hand machine for my wife. AOpen case, GA-6VTE+ motherboard, Pentium III 733MHz CPU, 256MB Kingmax PC133 SDRAM, 10GB HDD (got another identical one in the cupboard), 32MB AGP card, internal modem, NIC, SCSI, CD-RW. All for $200.00, Only 200, man I wish I could find deals like that Matt Newman Post best viewed with lynx
Matt Newman wrote: Only 200, man I wish I could find deals like that The bloke owed me a big favour and gave it to me for half of what he wanted. To make you feel worse prices here in Australia on aveage seem to be 50 - 100% more than in the US. ;P Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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I don't see any problem with this at all, Michael. I assume that this is a ATX case and MB, so you don't have to be concerned about large currents, and the 3A rating is much more than adequate. Using an SPST switch, polarity is not a problem, either, so there's very little that can go wrong. I don't see any mention of it, but I assume that the switch you selected is a normally open type - there isn't much call for a normally closed momentary action switch. Have fun!
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongJust got off the phone to one of the sales people in Jaycar and they recommended this[^]. Does this seem right to you? It doesn't seem to be a momentary switch and I'm having troubles getting past the price. $11.25 for the switch versus $37.50 for a whole new case. Just need to have a talk to the wife. I've already used up my dollars till paydfay next week. Will have to see if she will part with the dollars since the computer is for her anyway. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Just got off the phone to one of the sales people in Jaycar and they recommended this[^]. Does this seem right to you? It doesn't seem to be a momentary switch and I'm having troubles getting past the price. $11.25 for the switch versus $37.50 for a whole new case. Just need to have a talk to the wife. I've already used up my dollars till paydfay next week. Will have to see if she will part with the dollars since the computer is for her anyway. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: $11.25 for the switch versus $37.50 for a whole new case. That does seem extreme. I'd try your first option' if it doesn't work then you can spend the money on a more costly type.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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Matt Newman wrote: Only 200, man I wish I could find deals like that The bloke owed me a big favour and gave it to me for half of what he wanted. To make you feel worse prices here in Australia on aveage seem to be 50 - 100% more than in the US. ;P Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: The bloke owed me a big favour and gave it to me for half of what he wanted. If I had a dollar for everybody who said I owe you one and never compensated me back in anyway I would have a dual Xeon HT. Michael Martin wrote: prices here in Australia on aveage seem to be 50 - 100% more than in the US. Maybe its because everything is upside down, so instead of something being six dollars its nine :) Matt Newman Post best viewed with lynx
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Michael Martin wrote: $11.25 for the switch versus $37.50 for a whole new case. That does seem extreme. I'd try your first option' if it doesn't work then you can spend the money on a more costly type.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: That does seem extreme. I'd try your first option' if it doesn't work then you can spend the money on a more costly type. I ended up just buying the new case. $37.20 for a 320W P4 case with 2 x USB ports at the front was alright by me. Even if the motherboard doesn't support the ports at the front. The existing case didn't have the cover, I thought I had just forgotten to pick it up but he didn't have it. So I will have to save my soldering efforts till next time. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Michael Martin wrote: The bloke owed me a big favour and gave it to me for half of what he wanted. If I had a dollar for everybody who said I owe you one and never compensated me back in anyway I would have a dual Xeon HT. Michael Martin wrote: prices here in Australia on aveage seem to be 50 - 100% more than in the US. Maybe its because everything is upside down, so instead of something being six dollars its nine :) Matt Newman Post best viewed with lynx
Matt Newman wrote: If I had a dollar for everybody who said I owe you one and never compensated me back in anyway I would have a dual Xeon HT. Know that feeling. Matt Newman wrote: Maybe its because everything is upside down, so instead of something being six dollars its nine :) Brilliantly put. :-D Though I reckon it's just you Yanks subsidising the running costs of your country by rorting us wannabe 3rd world countries. ;P Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Matt Newman wrote: If I had a dollar for everybody who said I owe you one and never compensated me back in anyway I would have a dual Xeon HT. Know that feeling. Matt Newman wrote: Maybe its because everything is upside down, so instead of something being six dollars its nine :) Brilliantly put. :-D Though I reckon it's just you Yanks subsidising the running costs of your country by rorting us wannabe 3rd world countries. ;P Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: Though I reckon it's just you Yanks subsidising the running costs of your country by rorting us wannabe 3rd world countries. ;) Matt Newman "Two things have come out of Berkley, Unix and Acid, we do not belive this to be a coincidence"
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Roger Wright wrote: That does seem extreme. I'd try your first option' if it doesn't work then you can spend the money on a more costly type. I ended up just buying the new case. $37.20 for a 320W P4 case with 2 x USB ports at the front was alright by me. Even if the motherboard doesn't support the ports at the front. The existing case didn't have the cover, I thought I had just forgotten to pick it up but he didn't have it. So I will have to save my soldering efforts till next time. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: Even if the motherboard doesn't support the ports at the front. Most MBs now have 4 USB ports - two implemented as jacks on the back of the case, and two available via headers on the board. These are connected to your front panel connectors with a cheap cable, if the MB has these extra ports. Sounds like a very economical solution, grabbing a new case instead of mucking about with dangerous power tools.:-D
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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Michael Martin wrote: Even if the motherboard doesn't support the ports at the front. Most MBs now have 4 USB ports - two implemented as jacks on the back of the case, and two available via headers on the board. These are connected to your front panel connectors with a cheap cable, if the MB has these extra ports. Sounds like a very economical solution, grabbing a new case instead of mucking about with dangerous power tools.:-D
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: Most MBs now have 4 USB ports - two implemented as jacks on the back of the case, and two available via headers on the board. These are connected to your front panel connectors with a cheap cable, if the MB has these extra ports. Unfortunately the motherboard doesn't have the required pins for the front of the case. Something I'm sure she'll be able to live without as the crappy old laptop we're replacing only had one anyway. Roger Wright wrote: Sounds like a very economical solution, grabbing a new case instead of mucking about with dangerous power tools. :-D It may be safer but not as much fun. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002