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Can I Get Some Feedback?

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    basementman
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    Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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      Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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      Jim Lamb
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      and I hope you realized that not all of the feedback would be positive: 1. Hope all your visitors use a mouse and aren't dependent on accessibility software because your site has zero support for keyboard users. 2. On my 1600x1200 display, the navigational control labels on the main "page" are awfully hard to read, and my vision is about 20/30. 3. Noticed you provide your own "BACK" link since the entire site is Flash-based, you have to. It's to bad because I like my browsers Back function - I can invoke it from the keyboard, my trackball has a special button that activates it, I can click the toolbar button for it without even consciously thinking about it. Unfortunately, all it does on your site is take me back to an introductory animation that I didn't even want to see in the first place. 4. I might have wanted to copy and paste some of the verbiage from your web site into a proposal I'm writing to recommend a provider to outsource development to, but I can't because it's all flash graphics. It also appear to be quite badly anti-aliased to the point where it's uncomfortably fuzzy to read. That's all I have time for. Hope this helps you. Flash is great to create an eye-catching banner ad or to let users know about a new promotion. It's not suited, IMHO, for implementing an entire web site - even a small & simple one like yours.

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        and I hope you realized that not all of the feedback would be positive: 1. Hope all your visitors use a mouse and aren't dependent on accessibility software because your site has zero support for keyboard users. 2. On my 1600x1200 display, the navigational control labels on the main "page" are awfully hard to read, and my vision is about 20/30. 3. Noticed you provide your own "BACK" link since the entire site is Flash-based, you have to. It's to bad because I like my browsers Back function - I can invoke it from the keyboard, my trackball has a special button that activates it, I can click the toolbar button for it without even consciously thinking about it. Unfortunately, all it does on your site is take me back to an introductory animation that I didn't even want to see in the first place. 4. I might have wanted to copy and paste some of the verbiage from your web site into a proposal I'm writing to recommend a provider to outsource development to, but I can't because it's all flash graphics. It also appear to be quite badly anti-aliased to the point where it's uncomfortably fuzzy to read. That's all I have time for. Hope this helps you. Flash is great to create an eye-catching banner ad or to let users know about a new promotion. It's not suited, IMHO, for implementing an entire web site - even a small & simple one like yours.

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        basementman
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        I am not a fan of flash either, but the creative group *insists* that it is the end-all be-all of web technology and I don't have the time to do it myself... Thanks for the feedback, I will pass it on to them!!  onwards and upwards...

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        • B basementman

          Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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          NormDroid
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          get away from F-L-A-S-H is just an OCX for crying out L-O-U-D:|

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          • B basementman

            Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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            Chris Maunder
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            If you need help, feedback or testing please use this forum[^]. Allowing people to highlight their websites offering C++ products essentially opens the floodgates to the forums being spammed. cheers, Chris Maunder

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              If you need help, feedback or testing please use this forum[^]. Allowing people to highlight their websites offering C++ products essentially opens the floodgates to the forums being spammed. cheers, Chris Maunder

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              basementman
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              Thanks, didn't even know what that forum was for.  onwards and upwards...

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                If you need help, feedback or testing please use this forum[^]. Allowing people to highlight their websites offering C++ products essentially opens the floodgates to the forums being spammed. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Jim Lamb
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                Looks like that form gets a couple of posts a week. Don't think he'll get much feedback there.

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                  Looks like that form gets a couple of posts a week. Don't think he'll get much feedback there.

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  That isn't quite the point. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    That isn't quite the point. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    basementman
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                    I posted it in there... guess I'll see what happens.  onwards and upwards...

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                      Looks like that form gets a couple of posts a week. Don't think he'll get much feedback there.

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                      Jim Crafton
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                      Which is of course why no one likes to post there! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!

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                        get away from F-L-A-S-H is just an OCX for crying out L-O-U-D:|

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                        Jon Sagara
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                        Sorry, meant to hit 5. I seem to have a knack for that. :O

                        Jon Sagara
                        A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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                        • B basementman

                          Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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                          Todd C Wilson
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                          Too much non-HTML, my firewall refuses to load it. So even without broken keyboard navigation, you've broken the interface. Given THAT poor design choice, I would probably NOT be interested in any services or products you're selling.


                          "I was in a computer game. Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of."

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                            Too much non-HTML, my firewall refuses to load it. So even without broken keyboard navigation, you've broken the interface. Given THAT poor design choice, I would probably NOT be interested in any services or products you're selling.


                            "I was in a computer game. Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of."

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                            basementman
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                            Point taken.  onwards and upwards...

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                              Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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                              Lost User
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                              Ummm ... in a word ... yuck! A triumph of style over substance (like lots of other Flash sites). Tell the creative guys they got it wrong. X| X| X|


                              When I am king, you will be first against the wall.

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                                Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                Don't use Flash. I wouldn't have even entered the web site had it not been to give feedback. As previously stated, more style than substance. One very odd, and poor, design decision were the tiny little fonts for the major categories while the logo took up most the screen (and in THREE places!) DON'T USE PDFs. I hate them. Everyone I respect hates them. The only people I ever met who liked them were the Java programmers at my last company. LDS? What this is for Mormons? The real irony is you're sell a "lightning development suite" yet used Flash for your own web site, which runs slow. That redefines idiotic. (And apparently LDS is so freaking bad, you have to use PDFs as well. Brilliant marketing.) Incidentally, the BACK button didn't work when I was done perusing the overview. (I had opened the PDF and looked at it.) Graphics on the "Company" page are too dark and imposing. Moreover, the page isn't about the "Company" at all. And "Contact us" is too small. Do you want people to contact you or not. Also, why is LDS better than .NET? Potential customers will want to know that. The guy writing the checks wants to know why he should pay you more money after shelling out for salaries and MSDN Universal for a team. Incidentally, I gave up looking at your site when you started downloading 800k of graphics to my computer! Is your company out of its mind? Nobody is going to tolerate this. You have less than 3 seconds to load up a new page, especially if you use the word "Lightning" in your product name. This is a horrible web site. It lacks any real substance and does a terrible job selling what you have. That you obviously used someone elses product for your site pretty much makes you look like idiots and your potential customers like suckers.

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                                  Sorry, meant to hit 5. I seem to have a knack for that. :O

                                  Jon Sagara
                                  A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  I bumped it up for you, Jon.:-D

                                  "The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
                                  but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
                                  Lazarus Long

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                                    I bumped it up for you, Jon.:-D

                                    "The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
                                    but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
                                    Lazarus Long

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                                    Jon Sagara
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                                    Gracias. :)

                                    Jon Sagara
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                                    • B basementman

                                      Ok, so we finally just launched our new site for our C++ Web App server and wondered if you could let me know if the creative guys got it right or if it is confusing... http://webogy.com/webogy/  onwards and upwards...

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                                      Wesner Moise
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                                      flash is really bad. 1) it takes so much time, the people will have less desire to go your site. 2) it's only interesting the first time, then it's just a pain to skip over to the real content. 3) i can't figure out what your site does or what your product does. There is so much to read, people will give up without even looking deeper. what's the point of the site if it doesn't deliver the goods. 4) i usually don't have flash installed, and when asked, i usually say "no" to installing. it's too much of a hassle. fire your creative guys. tell them to work for a movie studio. Thanks, Wes

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                                        Gracias. :)

                                        Jon Sagara
                                        A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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                                        NormDroid
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                                        Thank you both ;)

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