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  • A Asday

    Pretty sure you're misunderstanding it - the way I read it, he's saying there appear to be a lot of low uptake languages and frameworks with no reason to have been written in the first place outside of a hobby project for a bored programmer, and no reason to enter his eyeballs outside of show&tell. His question is then whether he's mistaken.

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    jochance
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    It's probably as much a symptom of developer as branded product. Go make your blog, put some stuff on github, SEO yourself. Not just/specifically here, but a bunch of stuff out there only exists so that someone can point to it and say it exists. It exists almost solely to be indexed by a crawler so that searching the author's name turns up programming results.

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    • J jochance

      It's probably as much a symptom of developer as branded product. Go make your blog, put some stuff on github, SEO yourself. Not just/specifically here, but a bunch of stuff out there only exists so that someone can point to it and say it exists. It exists almost solely to be indexed by a crawler so that searching the author's name turns up programming results.

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      Asday
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      Does that actually work? If you search my name you get a bunch of different dudes who are all much more attractive and apparently successful than me. If you want to find me and what I do (and have done) you have to search my username.

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      • D dandy72

        Sounds like I completely misunderstood. Are you saying you're getting spammed by someone promoting/trying to push their framework/whatever it is?

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        Asday
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        I have personally received at least one unwanted message spamming one of these things that I can remember for sure, and I have the vague feeling that it's the most recent in a consistent dribble of spam. The OP mentioned that he sees new ones of these in the news every single day. I can't corroborate that as I don't look at this website (just the newsletters), but that certainly sounds like spam to me. It doesn't have to be numerous or frequent to be spam, just irrelevant and unwanted. If my birth was a message on the internet it would be spam for example, even though it only happened once.

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        • A Asday

          I have personally received at least one unwanted message spamming one of these things that I can remember for sure, and I have the vague feeling that it's the most recent in a consistent dribble of spam. The OP mentioned that he sees new ones of these in the news every single day. I can't corroborate that as I don't look at this website (just the newsletters), but that certainly sounds like spam to me. It doesn't have to be numerous or frequent to be spam, just irrelevant and unwanted. If my birth was a message on the internet it would be spam for example, even though it only happened once.

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          Asday wrote:

          The OP mentioned that he sees new ones of these in the news every single day

          Ok, so I had missed/misunderstood that part. I do go over the daily newsletter, and get the weekly "new articles" summary (whatever it's called), but I've proactively subscribed to that. I can't recall any sort of promotion(-ish) type of messaging from CP beyond that.

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          It doesn't have to be numerous or frequent to be spam, just irrelevant and unwanted. If my birth was a message on the internet it would be spam for example, even though it only happened once.

          You must hate watching the news. :-)

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          • A Asday

            Does that actually work? If you search my name you get a bunch of different dudes who are all much more attractive and apparently successful than me. If you want to find me and what I do (and have done) you have to search my username.

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            jochance
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            Mileage may vary for John Smith versus Alexandre Humblebottom III. But anyone can still drop a link (into resume/CV) pointing to a longer list of links.

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            • D dandy72

              Asday wrote:

              The OP mentioned that he sees new ones of these in the news every single day

              Ok, so I had missed/misunderstood that part. I do go over the daily newsletter, and get the weekly "new articles" summary (whatever it's called), but I've proactively subscribed to that. I can't recall any sort of promotion(-ish) type of messaging from CP beyond that.

              Asday wrote:

              It doesn't have to be numerous or frequent to be spam, just irrelevant and unwanted. If my birth was a message on the internet it would be spam for example, even though it only happened once.

              You must hate watching the news. :-)

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              Asday
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              > You must hate watching the news. So much that I don't do it, yes. I'm the sort of guy that uses adblock to block "trending" panels on websites.

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              • S Steve Naidamast

                What does that even mean: "low surface to volume ratio"??? :confused:

                Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                I understand that the lowest surface area to volume ratio is possessed by a ball, so maybe such code is balls?

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                • O obermd

                  I consider trying to shoehorn a framework into your needs to be the largest technical debt you can incur.

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                  Kate X257
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                  Yes, agreed. Each framework solves one maybe two valuable problems. You know it's going to suck when the people making the call ignore all that and just pick the popular new shiny thing, so people will like them more. Sure guys, let's do a single page app in a jazzy .ts framework.. only to chew it up and spit it out as thousands of different pages served as static files with no binding whatsoever. Great job guys, you sure captured the design philosophy of that framework! Odd thing that all our frontend devs are now running away, though. Very odd that.

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