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  • P Paul Sanders the other one

    > Most of this is just very loud performance quitting. No it's not. Musk - yet again - posted something totally random and wildly factually inaccurate and someone who *did* know the facts pointed that out. Musk just can't stand being told he's wrong, that's what's really happening here.

    Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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    I disagree - the engineer knew precisely what the consequences were going to be.

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      I disagree - the engineer knew precisely what the consequences were going to be.

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      Paul Sanders the other one
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      Of course he did, but that doesn't change the fact that Musk acts like a spiteful, spoiled child.

      Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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      • D DRHuff

        I'm sorry - in what world can you publicly call out your boss and expect no consequences. You can piss and moan about him down at the pub after work all you want but if you post it to the company intranet or publicly online - well - NO ONE is shocked when you get canned. Most of this is just very loud performance quitting.

        If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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        Sander Rossel
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        Well, the boss publicly called out his employees and he didn't even get it right. If I worked at Twatter I'd probably done the same as I'd be planning on quitting anyway. Musk deserves no respect from those working under him as he shows them no respect either.

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        but if you post it to the company intranet or publicly online - well - NO ONE is shocked when you get canned

        Depends, how good is this guy? Has he done this before? A good employee is worth a lot more than some manager's fragile ego. If my good employees did something stupid because I angered them, I'd sit down and try to resolve the issue. Of course nothing is worth more than Musk, according to Musk.

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        • P Paul Sanders the other one

          > Most of this is just very loud performance quitting. No it's not. Musk - yet again - posted something totally random and wildly factually inaccurate and someone who *did* know the facts pointed that out. Musk just can't stand being told he's wrong, that's what's really happening here.

          Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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          Kirk 10389821
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          So, do you disagree with the RPC naming of the calls? Because in that article, and the thread, others chimed in to say "they were making a lot of calls, and waiting for responses was a big consumption of time". FWIW, I think the Engineer, who said EFFECTIVELY "We accumulated a lot of Technical Debt over the last 10yrs" (Under the MANAGEMENT WE LOVED/AGREED WITH, and not this Yahoo, IMPLIED...) Hung himself right there. A PROFESSIONAL would have NOT let it go 10yrs. Finally, what's your assessment that the UNUSED features are causing the App to be slow? What degree of slowness, and WHY is it affecting things... IF they are UNUSED? (Sounds like poor implementation). I am NOT a Musk Fan, overall... (I think he has been funded by the same deep state that created Google, and is part of the problem)... What I no longer hear, STRANGELY, is "Muh, Private Company!" Honestly. If you can explain the difference between "Waiting for responses" and "Too many RPC Calls" (where Musk asked what the right number was). AND agree that if YOUR employee called you out IN PUBLIC while these are effectively the same thing to me... And you wouldn't fire them? Reprimand them? Also, with the others Joining in... Didn't they violate the Dog-Piling rules of Twitter? Personally, I would love to see a few of those people get temporary suspensions for Dog Piling. But Musk wont do that, because I think he WANTS the feedback. FWIW: I take issue with the classification that the statement was "Wildly Factually inaccurate", because YOU can't know that without knowing the code, and I think the programmer was HIDING behind "EXACT" terminology, which I NEVER expect the CEO/Owner/President of a Company to know! And I certainly would not call him out like he was called out. The guy likely would have gotten a promotion for "You mean the 26 Server Requests that we have to queue up and wait for resolution before we can render (they take 80% of the time)?"

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          • D DRHuff

            fgs1963 wrote:

            crypto dies a very public / violent death

            Not gonna happen - the guy is a major political doner. This will be downplayed. :doh:

            If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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            Someone already compared to John Crozine who did similar things and simply paid a fine. But watch the videos of these "kids" running these two companies. Then look at their investors... BlackRock? Really. They did due diligence here? Personally, since they allowed their name to be used, and had their backing... I hope someone rules that BlackRock has to make everyone whole! But alas, it won't happen. The masters never pay for losses, they only keep the gains!

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            • P Paul Sanders the other one

              Anyone **not** seen this? In a word, ROFL!! [Twitter engineer calls out Musk for technical incompetence • The Register](https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/musk\_twitter\_rpc\_spat/)

              Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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              Paul Sanders the other one
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              Quick follow up (he's really losing it, isn't he?): [Elon Musk's Twitter ultimatum: Go hardcore or go home • The Register](https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/16/musk\_twitter\_ultimatum) I already read that he has told all his staff that they can no longer work from home (*at all*). Two fisted management at its best, just the perfect way to induce burnout :( [Edit] Oh I see this is in todays' CP's mailing. Well spotted guys.

              Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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