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  • B BillWoodruff

    formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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    It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

    Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

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    Single Step Debugger
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    We cannot be sure, but I've read that the primary role of the dogs was not hunting, but rather guarding. These watchdogs were giving our ancestors much needed sleep.

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      We cannot be sure, but I've read that the primary role of the dogs was not hunting, but rather guarding. These watchdogs were giving our ancestors much needed sleep.

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      dandy72
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      Single Step Debugger wrote:

      We cannot be sure, but I've read that the primary role of the dogs was not hunting, but rather guarding.

      Then they're slacking off. What's the point of having a dog that barks only after you rang the doorbell? The doorbell does the job.

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      • B BillWoodruff

        formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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        It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

        Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

        «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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        Recent Maneki-neko appearance: In the final couple episodes of Delicious Party Precure, maneki-neko from around the world fly to Oishiina Town to join the battle to rescue the world's food supply, helping the skyscraper-height maneki-neko statue that dominates the skyline.

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        • B BillWoodruff

          formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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          It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

          Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

          «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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          Mike Hankey
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          BillWoodruff wrote:

          formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them

          I think they domesticated us.

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          • D dandy72

            Single Step Debugger wrote:

            We cannot be sure, but I've read that the primary role of the dogs was not hunting, but rather guarding.

            Then they're slacking off. What's the point of having a dog that barks only after you rang the doorbell? The doorbell does the job.

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            Single Step Debugger
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            No matter how big and illuminated doorbells they had 30 000 years ago, the cave bears and sabretooth tigers kept ignoring them.

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            • B BillWoodruff

              formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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              It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

              Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

              «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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              And let's not forget to hail Harō Kitī[^]. :laugh:

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              • O obermd

                Thousands of years ago cats were revered as Gods. We've forgotten, but they haven't.

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                Cats were not worshipped as gods themselves, but as vessels that the gods chose to inhabit, and whose likeness gods chose to adopt,” Skidmore explains. Through their ubiquitous presence in the art, fashion and home ornamentation of ancient Egypt, cats served as an everyday reminder of the power of the gods.

                Did Ancient Egyptians Worship Cats? - HISTORY[^]

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                • B BillWoodruff

                  formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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                  It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

                  Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

                  «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                  My cat comes to me when he wants brushing then bites me when he's had enough.

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    BillWoodruff wrote:

                    formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them

                    I think they domesticated us.

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                    Daniel Pfeffer
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                    Speak for yourself; I'm still feral. If I had my way, I wouldn't have any animals in the house other than children. (Unfortunately, my wife and daughters have been domesticated. They insist on having a dog. :sigh: )

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                    • D dandy72

                      Single Step Debugger wrote:

                      We cannot be sure, but I've read that the primary role of the dogs was not hunting, but rather guarding.

                      Then they're slacking off. What's the point of having a dog that barks only after you rang the doorbell? The doorbell does the job.

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                      Daniel Pfeffer
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                      That's because you insist on treating it like a pet, rather than expecting it to bark for its supper. :)

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                      • S Slacker007

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                        Cats were not worshipped as gods themselves, but as vessels that the gods chose to inhabit, and whose likeness gods chose to adopt,” Skidmore explains. Through their ubiquitous presence in the art, fashion and home ornamentation of ancient Egypt, cats served as an everyday reminder of the power of the gods.

                        Did Ancient Egyptians Worship Cats? - HISTORY[^]

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                        Paul Kemner
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                        They were basically a living icon. Also in the late period they killed huge numbers of cats to mummify, so they could deliver messages to a God for you. The number of cat mummies far exceeds the number of any other surviving ancient Egyptian object.

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                        • B BillWoodruff

                          formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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                          It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

                          Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

                          «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          I knew this, but a lot of people don't, so it's trivia I share with people too. Silly, but interesting anyway. I collect information cruft like that, but then I know I have a fair amount of company in that respect. :)

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                          • O obermd

                            Thousands of years ago cats were revered as Gods. We've forgotten, but they haven't.

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                            Paul Sanders the other one
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                            Still are, in our house 😸

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                            • B BillWoodruff

                              formerly ,,, were under the delusion that we (Homo Sap) domesticated them [^]

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                              It also could be said that cats domesticated themselves; they were attracted to the rodents that feasted off the harvests of the earliest farmers. They chose us, not the other way around. In turn, those early farmers appreciated this welcome form of pest control. So, unlike dogs — which were domesticated earlier, initially for hunting — cats weren’t bred for various specific purposes. They arrived as a “ready-made” symbiotic species, so to speak.

                              Hail Bastet, Maneki-neko !

                              «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                              Edward Aymami
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                              Don't tell my wife that. She hates all cats generally. She would say they are the spawn of the devil and have NEVER been domesticated. Being incredibly superstitious, black cats make her crazy. I grew up with cats and can take them or leave them. Developers are like cats in that you can't heard them either. ;P :laugh:

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                              • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                I knew this, but a lot of people don't, so it's trivia I share with people too. Silly, but interesting anyway. I collect information cruft like that, but then I know I have a fair amount of company in that respect. :)

                                To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                Well, of course, dear, you are the judge, the standard, the ne plus ultra, the "stupor mundi," whose judgements of anything ... like serious interest, over years, in paleogenetics, cultural evolution, and inter-species symbiosis ... can determine what is "trivial" or "cruft." Perhaps you should write Dr. Marcelo Sanchez-Villagra and let him know his acclaimed 2022 book on species domestication by humans [^] is just worthless, and his scientific career is a waste of time. Tell Google they made a mistake in making him a "Google Scholar." Then, let Dr. Alice Roberts know her acclaimed recent book where she combines probing science with a story-teller;s gifts [^] is a waste. Also write Dr. Svante Paabo, and tell him he didn't deserve the Nobel Prize last year for Neanderthal DNA genomic reconstruction. Good taste deters me from rendering the simpler analysis Occam's Razor suggests.

                                «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                                • B BillWoodruff

                                  Well, of course, dear, you are the judge, the standard, the ne plus ultra, the "stupor mundi," whose judgements of anything ... like serious interest, over years, in paleogenetics, cultural evolution, and inter-species symbiosis ... can determine what is "trivial" or "cruft." Perhaps you should write Dr. Marcelo Sanchez-Villagra and let him know his acclaimed 2022 book on species domestication by humans [^] is just worthless, and his scientific career is a waste of time. Tell Google they made a mistake in making him a "Google Scholar." Then, let Dr. Alice Roberts know her acclaimed recent book where she combines probing science with a story-teller;s gifts [^] is a waste. Also write Dr. Svante Paabo, and tell him he didn't deserve the Nobel Prize last year for Neanderthal DNA genomic reconstruction. Good taste deters me from rendering the simpler analysis Occam's Razor suggests.

                                  «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

                                  honey the codewitchH Online
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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  Wow. You dramatically misunderstood me to the point where I'm wondering if you deliberately read my posts in the worst possible light. All I meant was I collect useless trivia.

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                                  • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                    Wow. You dramatically misunderstood me to the point where I'm wondering if you deliberately read my posts in the worst possible light. All I meant was I collect useless trivia.

                                    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                    ... trivia, silly, cruft ... now ... useless you claimed you "already knew" recently published scientific insights which have important implications ... beyond cats ... for the recently expanding understanding of the complexities of human-animal co-evolution. i doubt you knew those recent insights described in the articlr. there was no light in your words. QED

                                    «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

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                                    • B BillWoodruff

                                      ... trivia, silly, cruft ... now ... useless you claimed you "already knew" recently published scientific insights which have important implications ... beyond cats ... for the recently expanding understanding of the complexities of human-animal co-evolution. i doubt you knew those recent insights described in the articlr. there was no light in your words. QED

                                      «The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch

                                      honey the codewitchH Online
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                                      honey the codewitch
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                                      FFS, Bill. You know what? I just am not going to respond to you anymore. I can't believe this nonsense.

                                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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