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    As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

      Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      This is the machine on which I first started my career

      Writing Excel macros without an excel manual and never having used a mac keyboard for a power station! I'm afraid I would take an axe to one after that nightmare!

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

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        Marc Clifton
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        If you don't count the PDP-11 I used in 7th-9th grade, Commodore PET - Wikipedia[^] yes, with the chicklet keyboard, was the machine that I started my career on. :-D

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

          Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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          Mike Hankey wrote:

          This is the machine on which I first started my career.

          Do you mean it's the first computer you used professionally? Or it's the computer that taught you how computers work?

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

            Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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            honey the codewitch
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            Where the heck did you find one, and out of curiosity what did you pay for it? (you don't have to answer, of course)

            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

              Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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              Good one. Long time since I used one of these.

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              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                Mike Hankey wrote:

                This is the machine on which I first started my career.

                Do you mean it's the first computer you used professionally? Or it's the computer that taught you how computers work?

                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                Mike Hankey
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                Professionally

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  Where the heck did you find one, and out of curiosity what did you pay for it? (you don't have to answer, of course)

                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  Ebay is full of them. I got a deal on this one I bid and got it for $255. Didn't expect to get it at that price. Comes with 2 5.25 disk drives but no monitor. The guy I bought it from has been emailing me and telling me the history. He bought it new in 1980 and taught his kid to program on it and the boy has gone on to be become a successful programmer. It has a very low serial number and is in mint condition.

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

                    Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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                    dandy72
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                    Maybe [these guys](http://thec64mini.com/) need to make an Apple II in the same way they're (re)producing the full-sized C64...

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      As a rule I generally build my own machine and I never go with Apple but couldn't help myself I bought a pre-built unit. It looks so sleek and cool I just had to have it. Apple IIe - Wikipedia[^] 6502 or 65C02 running at 1.023 MHz 8-bit data bus Memory 64 KB RAM built-in 16 KB ROM built-in Expandable from 64 KB up to 1 MB RAM or more Video modes 40 and 80 columns text, white-on-black, with 24 lines[Note 1] Low-Resolution: 40×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] High-Resolution: 280×192 (6 colors)[Note 3] Double-Low-Resolution: 80×48 (16 colors)[Note 2] Double-High-Resolution: 560×192 (16 colors)[Note 2][Note 3] Audio Built-in speaker; 1-bit toggling Built-in cassette recorder interface; 1-bit toggle output, 1-bit zero-crossing input This is the machine on which I first started my career.

                      Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine for those I can not! PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - An updated version available! JaxCoder.com Latest Article: Simon Says, A Child's Game

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                      I've still got my TI-99/4a in the original box. It probably doesn't work anymore...haven't tried in probably 30 years, and I don't have any TVs with an RF connection anyway. I don't know why I just can't dump it in the bin. ;P Probably the same reason why I still have every single computer (except an old powermac 6100...the one that really brought me back to computers after 10 years making boxes) that I've ever built/bought. :) Nostalgia and too much room! :laugh:

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                        Maybe [these guys](http://thec64mini.com/) need to make an Apple II in the same way they're (re)producing the full-sized C64...

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        I read a while back they where going to start making the C64 and VIC20s again. Nice for us retro guys.

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                          I've still got my TI-99/4a in the original box. It probably doesn't work anymore...haven't tried in probably 30 years, and I don't have any TVs with an RF connection anyway. I don't know why I just can't dump it in the bin. ;P Probably the same reason why I still have every single computer (except an old powermac 6100...the one that really brought me back to computers after 10 years making boxes) that I've ever built/bought. :) Nostalgia and too much room! :laugh:

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                          Mike Hankey
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                          Yeah I know it's hard to part with old equipment, but at some point there's no more room. That's part of a problem I'm having now, running out of room to put all this stuff.

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            Where the heck did you find one, and out of curiosity what did you pay for it? (you don't have to answer, of course)

                            To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                            jschell
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                            There should be a lot of IIe computers out there because they made a lot of them. And they were expensive so people will tend not to throw it away as long as it was still working when they moved on.

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                            • K kmoorevs

                              I've still got my TI-99/4a in the original box. It probably doesn't work anymore...haven't tried in probably 30 years, and I don't have any TVs with an RF connection anyway. I don't know why I just can't dump it in the bin. ;P Probably the same reason why I still have every single computer (except an old powermac 6100...the one that really brought me back to computers after 10 years making boxes) that I've ever built/bought. :) Nostalgia and too much room! :laugh:

                              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                              jschell
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                              kmoorevs wrote:

                              It probably doesn't work anymore

                              Probably does as long as it didn't end up underwater (damp).

                              kmoorevs wrote:

                              I don't know why I just can't dump it in the bin.

                              You can sell it. You won't get much but might appeal more to you that someone who buys it does want it.

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                              • K kmoorevs

                                I've still got my TI-99/4a in the original box. It probably doesn't work anymore...haven't tried in probably 30 years, and I don't have any TVs with an RF connection anyway. I don't know why I just can't dump it in the bin. ;P Probably the same reason why I still have every single computer (except an old powermac 6100...the one that really brought me back to computers after 10 years making boxes) that I've ever built/bought. :) Nostalgia and too much room! :laugh:

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                                Kelly Herald
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                                That's the computer that got me hooked on computers. It was back in 1983 when I got mine. I taught myself assembly on that system. I know I've still got mine somewhere in this house.

                                Kelly Herald Software Developer

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                                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                  I read a while back they where going to start making the C64 and VIC20s again. Nice for us retro guys.

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                                  "They" being that same company, yes, they're out there and available. I have their C64 mini (and the A500 mini), and had been waiting for a long time to get ahold of one of the full-size ones. I see they finally *have* started showing up on Amazon--but for CAD$400 (or USD$300). There's no way I'm paying that sort of money for what is, essentially, the same thing as I already have but in a larger housing. And, well, a working keyboard. My problem really is software. If I still had my collection, I still might splurge. Notice how they're avoiding the use of "Commodore" to identify their systems.

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                                    "They" being that same company, yes, they're out there and available. I have their C64 mini (and the A500 mini), and had been waiting for a long time to get ahold of one of the full-size ones. I see they finally *have* started showing up on Amazon--but for CAD$400 (or USD$300). There's no way I'm paying that sort of money for what is, essentially, the same thing as I already have but in a larger housing. And, well, a working keyboard. My problem really is software. If I still had my collection, I still might splurge. Notice how they're avoiding the use of "Commodore" to identify their systems.

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                                    I had thought about a C64, that was my first home computer. The clones are looking pretty nice. How do you like the mini?

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                                      I had thought about a C64, that was my first home computer. The clones are looking pretty nice. How do you like the mini?

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                                      The games that came with it are okay, although I do stick with my small handful of favorites, and I like the fact that you can just place floppy disk images (if you have them) on a USB key. Its biggest "flaw" (if you wanna call it that) is that it has to rely on an onscreen keyboard, so anything that requires any amount of typing (or a specific key for some game) is a non-starter, but they were very careful about the bundled games so none of them rely on that. I can certainly see the appeal of the full-sized one, since it has a working keyboard. Nostalgia got the better of me, and that's why I own it...to be honest, most games got real old rather quickly, and it's been months I've even powered it on. But to be fair, I'm not the gamer I used to be, and I'm very selective about the games I spend time on these days (I play GTA5 pretty much exclusively, nothing else captures my interest), so that may have something to do with it. I'd *probably* get more use out of the full-sized one, but I can't justify the sort of money they want for it. And "can't justify" isn't the same as "can't afford". I just feel like I'd get very little value out of it.

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                                        The games that came with it are okay, although I do stick with my small handful of favorites, and I like the fact that you can just place floppy disk images (if you have them) on a USB key. Its biggest "flaw" (if you wanna call it that) is that it has to rely on an onscreen keyboard, so anything that requires any amount of typing (or a specific key for some game) is a non-starter, but they were very careful about the bundled games so none of them rely on that. I can certainly see the appeal of the full-sized one, since it has a working keyboard. Nostalgia got the better of me, and that's why I own it...to be honest, most games got real old rather quickly, and it's been months I've even powered it on. But to be fair, I'm not the gamer I used to be, and I'm very selective about the games I spend time on these days (I play GTA5 pretty much exclusively, nothing else captures my interest), so that may have something to do with it. I'd *probably* get more use out of the full-sized one, but I can't justify the sort of money they want for it. And "can't justify" isn't the same as "can't afford". I just feel like I'd get very little value out of it.

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                                        I bid on it but didn't expect to get it, but at the price it's not a bad deal. I probably won't use it much but I want to do some programming and just play.

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