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I've clearly been spoiled by years of driving Mercs.

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  • R Rich Leyshon

    Never had problems like that with an Allegro. Although to be fair, it did keep at least two North Sea oilrigs in business. One gallon of engine oil leaked per 100 miles, but at least it was predictable!

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    OriginalGriff
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    Or the "All agro" as it was known.

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      My car is in for a service, and while I'm impressed by the professional approach of the garage so far, I hate the courtesy car: a Citroen C3. There's about a foot of clutch travel, but only the top one inch actually bites, the suspension is way to hard and bouncy at low speed but goes too soft and "floaty" at speed. It's noisy, the engine feels willing but rough and gutless. and the steering wheel isn't in front of me - it's slightly to the right. Oh and you can't see a car behind you at all because the window is so small and the middle headrest at the back covers a car completely. Fortunately it does have a good reversing cam / sensor setup so parking isn't too bad. It's also got a tire warning light, but my pump is in the boot of my car and all four look inflated. I'll borrow my neighbours one later and check 'em. The nicest thing I can say about it is ... um ... it's very French. And for today, it's free. If I'd paid money for it, I'd probably be parking it somewhere that it will almost certainly be stolen from.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      I test drove a Citroen once, many many years ago. My first note of caution was when I shut the driver's door and it felt and sounded like a paper bag. It drove OK-ish, until I wanted to slow down. Gentle pressure on the brake - nothing. A little more - nothing. Pressing pretty hard - still nothing. Standing on the pedal and pulling the steering wheel to get more pressure - an almost imperceptible reduction in velocity. Fortunately there was nothing in front of me and at the bottom of the hill, I parked it and walked back to the showroom. Luckily I'd walked there (my car was fine, but it was close) so I just threw the keys at the guy and told him where his POS was.

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      • Y yacCarsten

        Isn't Citroen French for lemon?

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        RickZeeland
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        No it is Dutch, mr.Citroën was of Dutch origin: Citroën - Wikipedia[^]

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Or the "All agro" as it was known.

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          Rich Leyshon
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          Sad but true. Mine had the sporty 5th gear but turning on the air blowers did make a sound like a mass of wailing banshees that would make every pedestrian stop and look around. :sigh: But, despite being single-handedly responsible for a fair proportion of climate change damage, it never actually broke down on me in several years.

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          • R RickZeeland

            No it is Dutch, mr.Citroën was of Dutch origin: Citroën - Wikipedia[^]

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            Kind of was making a silly joke. When you buy a lemon, you've bought a troublesome car; maybe more of an American expression perhaps? and Citroen looks like "citron". Dutch?

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            André-Gustave Citroën (French: [ɑ̃dʁe ɡystav sitʁɔɛn]; 5 February 1878 – 3 July 1935) was a French industrialist and the founder of French automaker Citroën. He is also remembered for his application of double helical gears.

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              Kind of was making a silly joke. When you buy a lemon, you've bought a troublesome car; maybe more of an American expression perhaps? and Citroen looks like "citron". Dutch?

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              André-Gustave Citroën (French: [ɑ̃dʁe ɡystav sitʁɔɛn]; 5 February 1878 – 3 July 1935) was a French industrialist and the founder of French automaker Citroën. He is also remembered for his application of double helical gears.

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              Well sort of Dutch :-\

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              The Citroen family descended from a grandfather in the Netherlands who had been a greengrocer and seller of tropical fruit, and had taken the surname of Limoenman, Dutch for "lime man"; his son however changed it to Citroen

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                My car is in for a service, and while I'm impressed by the professional approach of the garage so far, I hate the courtesy car: a Citroen C3. There's about a foot of clutch travel, but only the top one inch actually bites, the suspension is way to hard and bouncy at low speed but goes too soft and "floaty" at speed. It's noisy, the engine feels willing but rough and gutless. and the steering wheel isn't in front of me - it's slightly to the right. Oh and you can't see a car behind you at all because the window is so small and the middle headrest at the back covers a car completely. Fortunately it does have a good reversing cam / sensor setup so parking isn't too bad. It's also got a tire warning light, but my pump is in the boot of my car and all four look inflated. I'll borrow my neighbours one later and check 'em. The nicest thing I can say about it is ... um ... it's very French. And for today, it's free. If I'd paid money for it, I'd probably be parking it somewhere that it will almost certainly be stolen from.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                If I'd paid money for it, I'd probably be parking it somewhere that it will almost certainly be stolen from.

                Well now that you've mentioned everything that's wrong with it, there's probably not gonna be any takers...

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  My car is in for a service, and while I'm impressed by the professional approach of the garage so far, I hate the courtesy car: a Citroen C3. There's about a foot of clutch travel, but only the top one inch actually bites, the suspension is way to hard and bouncy at low speed but goes too soft and "floaty" at speed. It's noisy, the engine feels willing but rough and gutless. and the steering wheel isn't in front of me - it's slightly to the right. Oh and you can't see a car behind you at all because the window is so small and the middle headrest at the back covers a car completely. Fortunately it does have a good reversing cam / sensor setup so parking isn't too bad. It's also got a tire warning light, but my pump is in the boot of my car and all four look inflated. I'll borrow my neighbours one later and check 'em. The nicest thing I can say about it is ... um ... it's very French. And for today, it's free. If I'd paid money for it, I'd probably be parking it somewhere that it will almost certainly be stolen from.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  A characterful supermini

                  "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    My car is in for a service, and while I'm impressed by the professional approach of the garage so far, I hate the courtesy car: a Citroen C3. There's about a foot of clutch travel, but only the top one inch actually bites, the suspension is way to hard and bouncy at low speed but goes too soft and "floaty" at speed. It's noisy, the engine feels willing but rough and gutless. and the steering wheel isn't in front of me - it's slightly to the right. Oh and you can't see a car behind you at all because the window is so small and the middle headrest at the back covers a car completely. Fortunately it does have a good reversing cam / sensor setup so parking isn't too bad. It's also got a tire warning light, but my pump is in the boot of my car and all four look inflated. I'll borrow my neighbours one later and check 'em. The nicest thing I can say about it is ... um ... it's very French. And for today, it's free. If I'd paid money for it, I'd probably be parking it somewhere that it will almost certainly be stolen from.

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    :)

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Not just Citroens - my first car was a Lancia Beta HPE 2000, and to get at one of the spark plugs you had to dismantle part of the cooling system ... Plus if you needed a part you had best take the old one with you as they fitted what came to hand. I found this out when I needed to replace a cracked distributor cap which took several journeys to get teh right one.

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Reminds me of a Chevy Nova I inherited from my step-dad. The four spark plugs on the passenger side of the engine were a PITA to change because you had to dismantle the air and exhaust handling to get at them. He changed the plugs himself the first time several years into owning the car after multiple plug changes by the dealer. He discovered that those four plugs were factory-original and completely degraded. It was amazing how much better the engine sounded afterward.

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