Titan submersible found - in pieces
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Yep. If the chance of a failure was 5%; they had already done some 20 dives. One more made 5%. And, they used carbon fibre; which has a history. The "old" guys say to use steel or titanium. The CEO only wanted to "listen" to 20-some year olds (the same way companies are always looking for "intermediate" programmers).
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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If that's the case, then you'd be against any archelogy. We cannot pinpoint any exact grave, nor do we pay homage particularly, when exploring the past. Without that, we'd not know of dinosaurs, the history of the Earth, etc.
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What I meant, in the overall sense, was: Comparing adventure and safety, safety should not be given second preference, especially when unsuspecting customers are involved. For example, when I was a student of Engineering about 30 years ago, they used to hold conferences on estimating the residual life of an aircraft, and the structural testing, non-destructive evaluation needed for this estimate, and hence part-replacements, repair schedules, etc. An aircraft undergoes a load spectrum from take-off to landing, and each such cycle does affect the structural integrity of the aircraft, for which periodic checks are needed. Here again, the Titan vehicle had made about 20 trips to the Titanic, and we're not sure of the structural evaluation done after each such trip. When a person goes blindly after innovation, and gives a cursory preference to safety, testing, residual life, etc. then it's a problem, and often ends in such catastrophes. I would call it foolish innovation.
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6000 psi down there. They wouldn't have had time to notice there was a problem - death would have been instantaneous. One moment 5 humans, the next a lamination on the carbon fibre. RIP, and my thoughts are with the families (who definitely can afford to sue) ... :rose:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
my thoughts are with the families (who definitely can afford to sue)
Apparently there are two separate companies. OceanGate owns the submersibles, and OceanGate expeditions charters them and uses them for their expeditions. Leaving aside the waivers the passengers signed, it is likely that there are no assets for the families to collect from.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
my thoughts are with the families (who definitely can afford to sue)
Apparently there are two separate companies. OceanGate owns the submersibles, and OceanGate expeditions charters them and uses them for their expeditions. Leaving aside the waivers the passengers signed, it is likely that there are no assets for the families to collect from.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
When did that ever stop lawyers trying? :laugh:
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