Bandwidth Advice
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w00t! My first post from my Win2003 machine. Anyway... I have a website that is going to be used by a relatively small group of people. About 30 if not less. The problem comes to what needs to be done to run this site. Extensive database configurations (frequently), and other administrative tweaks that most web hosts will not do. It is also just plain easier to run the site from a local machine. It takes way to long to copy a project to a remote server of this size even on broadband (currently only 128K upload). What I would like to do is use this Win2k3 web edition system and host our own server. I would be upgrading the internet to a business grade cable line: 2MB down, 512KB up. So, would that amount of upload bandwidth be enough for the number of people using the service? In the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. But that is a large jump in price and equipment costs. ... or any other ideas?
Steve McLenithan
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w00t! My first post from my Win2003 machine. Anyway... I have a website that is going to be used by a relatively small group of people. About 30 if not less. The problem comes to what needs to be done to run this site. Extensive database configurations (frequently), and other administrative tweaks that most web hosts will not do. It is also just plain easier to run the site from a local machine. It takes way to long to copy a project to a remote server of this size even on broadband (currently only 128K upload). What I would like to do is use this Win2k3 web edition system and host our own server. I would be upgrading the internet to a business grade cable line: 2MB down, 512KB up. So, would that amount of upload bandwidth be enough for the number of people using the service? In the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. But that is a large jump in price and equipment costs. ... or any other ideas?
Steve McLenithan
Is Bert Evil? | Homer: "Hello, operator, gimme the number for 911!"it depends on how much you want to upload, and how important reliable, speedy download speeds are to your users. just keep in mind, every picture, every mp3, movie, game, application, demo, text file, etc is one more thing users have to download. you should estimate the demand for your product and asses the needs of your customers. *.* cin >> knowledge;
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w00t! My first post from my Win2003 machine. Anyway... I have a website that is going to be used by a relatively small group of people. About 30 if not less. The problem comes to what needs to be done to run this site. Extensive database configurations (frequently), and other administrative tweaks that most web hosts will not do. It is also just plain easier to run the site from a local machine. It takes way to long to copy a project to a remote server of this size even on broadband (currently only 128K upload). What I would like to do is use this Win2k3 web edition system and host our own server. I would be upgrading the internet to a business grade cable line: 2MB down, 512KB up. So, would that amount of upload bandwidth be enough for the number of people using the service? In the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. But that is a large jump in price and equipment costs. ... or any other ideas?
Steve McLenithan
Is Bert Evil? | Homer: "Hello, operator, gimme the number for 911!"Steve McLenithan wrote: the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. Just remember, a T1 is only 1.5Mbit and now you have 512Kbit, so with a T1 you can only support 3 times as many users. I use my ADSL for a lot of hosting, it's a 2048/512 like the one you would get. I think the speed is ok. As you say, maybe 30 users. How much data will each user download each day, and I guess they wont do it at the same time. You can actually host a lot with "only" 512Kbit outgoing bandwidth. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Steve McLenithan wrote: the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. Just remember, a T1 is only 1.5Mbit and now you have 512Kbit, so with a T1 you can only support 3 times as many users. I use my ADSL for a lot of hosting, it's a 2048/512 like the one you would get. I think the speed is ok. As you say, maybe 30 users. How much data will each user download each day, and I guess they wont do it at the same time. You can actually host a lot with "only" 512Kbit outgoing bandwidth. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I will mainly be hosting information and organization services, so the uploads will be mostly plain text with few graphics. Thanks for the info.
Steve McLenithan
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I will mainly be hosting information and organization services, so the uploads will be mostly plain text with few graphics. Thanks for the info.
Steve McLenithan
Is Bert Evil? | Homer: "Hello, operator, gimme the number for 911!"You should also check the SDSL and other DSL options. ADSL is asymmetric and for example in your case, the upload speed is 4 times less than the download speed. May be you can find a 1024K/1024K SDSL service with the same price and it would be much more suitable for your needs. Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com
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Steve McLenithan wrote: the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. Just remember, a T1 is only 1.5Mbit and now you have 512Kbit, so with a T1 you can only support 3 times as many users. I use my ADSL for a lot of hosting, it's a 2048/512 like the one you would get. I think the speed is ok. As you say, maybe 30 users. How much data will each user download each day, and I guess they wont do it at the same time. You can actually host a lot with "only" 512Kbit outgoing bandwidth. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: Just remember, a T1 is only 1.5Mbit and now you have 512Kbit, so with a T1 you can only support 3 times as many users. mmmm This depends on your math. The T1 users will be able to access and downlaod 3 times faster, so they will quite likely download twice as much. Thus you can support 1.5 times the uses. :-) :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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You should also check the SDSL and other DSL options. ADSL is asymmetric and for example in your case, the upload speed is 4 times less than the download speed. May be you can find a 1024K/1024K SDSL service with the same price and it would be much more suitable for your needs. Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com
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Steve McLenithan
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w00t! My first post from my Win2003 machine. Anyway... I have a website that is going to be used by a relatively small group of people. About 30 if not less. The problem comes to what needs to be done to run this site. Extensive database configurations (frequently), and other administrative tweaks that most web hosts will not do. It is also just plain easier to run the site from a local machine. It takes way to long to copy a project to a remote server of this size even on broadband (currently only 128K upload). What I would like to do is use this Win2k3 web edition system and host our own server. I would be upgrading the internet to a business grade cable line: 2MB down, 512KB up. So, would that amount of upload bandwidth be enough for the number of people using the service? In the future if our use base grows we might need to get a T1. But that is a large jump in price and equipment costs. ... or any other ideas?
Steve McLenithan
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SDSL - 2.5Mb both ways Business grade ~ $150 or so /Mo. - Nitron
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Holy damn! Where do you live last time I checked (about 2 weeks ago) the best we could get was 1.5MB SDSL for $350 - $400 a month.
Steve McLenithan
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Holy damn! Where do you live last time I checked (about 2 weeks ago) the best we could get was 1.5MB SDSL for $350 - $400 a month.
Steve McLenithan
Is Bert Evil? | Homer: "Hello, operator, gimme the number for 911!"I'm not sure how far their coverage goes (they mainly serve Montcalm and Gratiot county), but CMS[^] offers wireless internet to businesses for $100/mo. 1.5Mb/s up and down. Residential services are $50/mo but I don't know if they put a limit on the speed. They don't however like it when you use up all of the upstream ;P James "I despise the city and much prefer being where a traffic jam means a line-up at McDonald's" Me when telling a friend why I wouldn't want to live with him
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I'm not sure how far their coverage goes (they mainly serve Montcalm and Gratiot county), but CMS[^] offers wireless internet to businesses for $100/mo. 1.5Mb/s up and down. Residential services are $50/mo but I don't know if they put a limit on the speed. They don't however like it when you use up all of the upstream ;P James "I despise the city and much prefer being where a traffic jam means a line-up at McDonald's" Me when telling a friend why I wouldn't want to live with him
James T. Johnson wrote: They don't however like it when you use up all of the upstream Yeah, mine gets testy about it and, technically, I'm not allowed to run a server. But sometimes they call on me for help, and I was one of their first customers, so they cut me some slack. Wireless is sweet - 2Mbps both ways for $28/month. Everything else about this place may suck, but I sure can't whine about Internet service.:-D
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I'm not sure how far their coverage goes (they mainly serve Montcalm and Gratiot county), but CMS[^] offers wireless internet to businesses for $100/mo. 1.5Mb/s up and down. Residential services are $50/mo but I don't know if they put a limit on the speed. They don't however like it when you use up all of the upstream ;P James "I despise the city and much prefer being where a traffic jam means a line-up at McDonald's" Me when telling a friend why I wouldn't want to live with him
I don't see any kind of broadband service on their website. Only dialup:confused: [DOH!]I see it now. I'll have to call them tomorrow[/DOH!]
Steve McLenithan
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