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My current thoughts on the beneficial use of AI now and going forward

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  • N Nelek

    I do not think that they are "that dumb" (IQ). I just think that they are not really educated. From all the US people I have met in my life, I observed that there were no middle way. Either they were really hardworking and learned a lot (mostly on their own) or they were damned lazy and didn't have a clue about anything. And I see the same tendence being established in europe too. Younger generations are not being prepared properly for the future. I find it really dangerous in a such complex world like the one nowadays. I suppose "simple" people (I repeat, I don't think people is "that dumb") is easier to manipulate and to get where the interests of the "elite" want them to go. The other side of the coin is... if / when STHTF (Note: I am not alarmist or prepper, IMHO it is just statistic) there will be a huge decimation because people won't be able to adapt and won't have enough knowledge to survive without all what today is taken as "granted".

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    Your observations about Americans I think are valid however that is only a subjective view. The guy on Varitisium he did some averaging of several IQ determining methods and from this refining of that data the dark matter, as it were, was revealed. It does make you wonder however when the Internet makes it possible (in fact the social media algorithms help them) for the supersitious to clump together. American's brand of capitalism would seem to encourage an empty mind to begin with. Everything in a collective sense is discouraged excepting who you vote for and what church you attend. Otherwise, they are a blank slate for marketing strategies. Americans understand this in the sense they will go out to discover what to buy, not what they need. It is not a sustainable way to run a country in my view. If there are 30 million dumbells out there then they are going to bollocks things up when it comes to solving the importnat issues. AI may compound this too by turning several hundred million into useless members of society. That can't be good. I might be one them. Time will be the revelator I suppose.

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      Your observations about Americans I think are valid however that is only a subjective view. The guy on Varitisium he did some averaging of several IQ determining methods and from this refining of that data the dark matter, as it were, was revealed. It does make you wonder however when the Internet makes it possible (in fact the social media algorithms help them) for the supersitious to clump together. American's brand of capitalism would seem to encourage an empty mind to begin with. Everything in a collective sense is discouraged excepting who you vote for and what church you attend. Otherwise, they are a blank slate for marketing strategies. Americans understand this in the sense they will go out to discover what to buy, not what they need. It is not a sustainable way to run a country in my view. If there are 30 million dumbells out there then they are going to bollocks things up when it comes to solving the importnat issues. AI may compound this too by turning several hundred million into useless members of society. That can't be good. I might be one them. Time will be the revelator I suppose.

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      Charles Kroeger wrote:

      The guy on Varitisium he did some averaging of several IQ determining methods and from this refining of that data the dark matter, as it were, was revealed.

      I know the guy works with a pretty nice scientific approach, but there is still a lot of dependance of the data used. I think the usage of social media decreases with the intelligence / madurity of the user. So the biggest % of people using it will fall in that average easier.

      Charles Kroeger wrote:

      American's brand of capitalism would seem to encourage an empty mind to begin with.

      Sadly not only American's... I think this really extended. In fanatic countries it is already limited per se. In autocratic countries, the same. In democratic countries, it is being pushed pretty hard. As I said, dumb people is easier to manipulate. Pick a country and you can find several examples related to that without big efford.

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      Americans understand this in the sense they will go out to discover what to buy, not what they need. It is not a sustainable way to run a country in my view.

      Same as above... if it only were the americans... :sigh:

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      AI may compound this too by turning several hundred million into useless members of society.

      If that happens... it will be the start of the end. From all the people I know without something meaningful to do, the biggest part have either psychological, alcohol, drugs problems or all at once. We are not done to stay idle for long periods of time, it is not healthy.

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      Time will be the revelator I suppose.

      For sure... the question is... what will it reveal?

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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