Gulliver's travels is obscene and banned.
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: If somebody does it, SO WHAT? Well said, yes, rape is not "encouraged" in India, but if somebody is doing it SO WHAT Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Now look here, you want an Indo-Pak flame war, this is not the place. Go to the Soapbox, crib against India, and mail me the link so I can join issue. This flame war is started by you and only by you. You are an Indian and you posted something against Pakistan here, and so it is better that you yourself take it away towards soapbox. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: The basic difference is that you're a theocratic state and religious fanatics; we're secular. Ahm..no we are not culturally similar. We daily slaughter cows, our national dresses are different than that of India. Alcohol is prohibitted e.t.c e.t.c Vikram Punathambekar wrote: We *don't* have girls going about in small dresses. We *don't* condone public mouth to mouth kissing. We *don't* promote hugging in public. Your media is portraying everything you said above. Have you ever seen a Bollywood film (which seems not in your case...aHem ||)
Fuck off you worthless cunt. When you wankers feel secure enough in your manhood that you don't have to beat your women and cover them up in uncomfortable and ugly clothing then, and only then can you come out and make fun of how other cultures work. Go back to kissing men and beating your women, it will make you feel like the man you can never be. You are not protecting your women, you are opressing them as you (I mean all Paki males when I say this) fear what they can achieve without you mysoginistic bunch of twats. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Well said, yes, rape is not "encouraged" in India, but if somebody is doing it SO WHAT Now, do you believe that wearing small dresses, kissing in public and hugging are equal to rape? If you do, I can only marvel at your naivety.
Vikram.
My soon-to-be-updated site KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
Read my reply below yours. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Perhaps the most bizarre criticism is of a Sean O'Casey play Ye all have something against the irish don't ye. Leave Sean alone.. and it's actually Séan [It's the Irish word for John]. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: , Darry cocks his ear and listens Right.. they banned it because of this??? lol... no.. ROTFLMAO.. :laugh: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
Brian Delahunty wrote: Ye all have something against the irish don't ye [humor]No, it wasn't me! :points his finger: It was the Pakis. :laugh: [/humor]
Vikram.
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5 ! I agree because of an odd situation I have been in. I am not a religious person, yet I have been in the situation of explaining some fairly basic aspects of Islam to a few muslim friends (from Pakistan as it happens) because their religious teaching consists of memorising the Quran, without having to understand a single word as long as they could make the right sounds. In that particular instance, it was explaining what the Hadith is (after explaaining that it existed !). I learned a bit about Islam because I have had a number of muslim friends and lived in multicultured areas, so it seemed reasonable to understand people. I have even read Gulliver's Travels. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: I have even read Gulliver's Travels. Really? ;P ROTFLMAO !
Vikram.
My soon-to-be-updated site KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
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Fuck off you worthless cunt. When you wankers feel secure enough in your manhood that you don't have to beat your women and cover them up in uncomfortable and ugly clothing then, and only then can you come out and make fun of how other cultures work. Go back to kissing men and beating your women, it will make you feel like the man you can never be. You are not protecting your women, you are opressing them as you (I mean all Paki males when I say this) fear what they can achieve without you mysoginistic bunch of twats. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Uh, oh! Michael, you seem to be more anti-Pakistan than any Indian I've met. While *I agree* with most of what you say, I wouldn't put it across that way- maybe I'm too polite, or maybe I don't feel that way- I just don't know.
But I'm glad you're on my side. :-D
Vikram.
My soon-to-be-updated site KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
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Fuck off you worthless cunt. When you wankers feel secure enough in your manhood that you don't have to beat your women and cover them up in uncomfortable and ugly clothing then, and only then can you come out and make fun of how other cultures work. Go back to kissing men and beating your women, it will make you feel like the man you can never be. You are not protecting your women, you are opressing them as you (I mean all Paki males when I say this) fear what they can achieve without you mysoginistic bunch of twats. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Michael Martin wrote: mysoginistic I didn't know that was a word!:-D I guess that makes me philogynistic.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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I think Roger was talking about the Kama Sutra being banned in the UK. The tigress is here :-D
The US, actually.:)
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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Roger Wright wrote: In my lifetime, the only book ever banned in this nation of supposedly free individuals was penned in that area - the Kama Sutra A good point but not entirely true there are other more subtle forms of the suppression of ideas and statements that certain people do not appreciate for one reason or another. The American chains such as Wal Mart and Disney are notorious in the that the ideas they put across and the products they sell must conform to a certain perception of "Family values". In the case of Wal Mart refusing to stock albums by Nirvana and other bands is a famous example, where they wouldn't stock their records until the changed the name of certain songs. Noticably the song "Rape me" and in the UK major book sellers including W.H.Smith ( a major book retailler ) refused to stock American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis. I know there are a lot of people on this site who take a stand on the "Family values" argument on this site mostly with the consideration of their own children in mind and I'm not trying to start a flame war on family values and if or where certain subject matters should be avaliable to the general public or people who are interested in a particular topic. I am just trying to make the point that each society has it's own restrictions and that those restrictions are enforced just as strictly ine each society. pseudonym67
pseudonym67 wrote: The American chains such as Wal Mart and Disney are notorious in the that the ideas they put across and the products they sell must conform to a certain perception of "Family values". True, and that's a business decision they are entitled to make. Governments, however, should not have that authority as it so easily can degenerate into the sort of mind control exhibited by the former USSR. Excellent examples, though.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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Brian Delahunty wrote: Ye all have something against the irish don't ye [humor]No, it wasn't me! :points his finger: It was the Pakis. :laugh: [/humor]
Vikram.
My soon-to-be-updated site KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
:laugh: Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Michael Martin wrote: mysoginistic I didn't know that was a word!:-D I guess that makes me philogynistic.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: I didn't know that was a word! :-D I guess that makes me philogynistic. Yes, I'm virtually a thesaurus come dictionary which I use so poetically. ;P Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Uh, oh! Michael, you seem to be more anti-Pakistan than any Indian I've met. While *I agree* with most of what you say, I wouldn't put it across that way- maybe I'm too polite, or maybe I don't feel that way- I just don't know.
But I'm glad you're on my side. :-D
Vikram.
My soon-to-be-updated site KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Michael, you seem to be more anti-Pakistan than any Indian I've met. I'm not anti-Pakistan. I'm just sick and tired of people spouting off about how absolutley fantastic their country is and how fucked up everyone else's is. I mean if you have to come out and tell everyone then it can't actually be that good in the first place. On top of that everyone knows Australia is the best place on earth and I'm the best Australian. Also I hate people/races/religions/countries that feel the need to opress someone and ram their own beliefs down the other person's throat purely out of fear that they cannot stand on their own two feet. (I hope that last sentence wasn't too confusing). Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Roger Wright wrote: I didn't know that was a word! :-D I guess that makes me philogynistic. Yes, I'm virtually a thesaurus come dictionary which I use so poetically. ;P Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Oh good! I've been wondering, where can I look up another word for thesaurus?
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus Long -
Oh good! I've been wondering, where can I look up another word for thesaurus?
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: Oh good! I've been wondering, where can I look up another word for thesaurus? Any good dinosaur book will do and if your too lazy to read just rent the Jurassic Park trilogy and listen carefully. As an added bonus you will learn how to administrate a Unix system via a 3D virtual world interface. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002