Tiny, tiny print on packaging. Can someone who does this explain?
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Do you mind if I ask Why does Firefox not like your link "View My Work" I am not being critical just trying to understand what Firefox is doing
Don't know yet. I just renewed my SSL certificate, and maybe I got it wrong. I tested it from home, and I didn't get any warnings, so I'm not sure yet. On Firefox IOS, says connection secure. Kind of stupid that I buy a 5 year certificate, and I have to regenerate it every year for 5 years, on like June 11. I went to generate it this year, and forgot how to do it, and messed up, and had to do it again, so maybe that's it.
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Don't know yet. I just renewed my SSL certificate, and maybe I got it wrong. I tested it from home, and I didn't get any warnings, so I'm not sure yet. On Firefox IOS, says connection secure. Kind of stupid that I buy a 5 year certificate, and I have to regenerate it every year for 5 years, on like June 11. I went to generate it this year, and forgot how to do it, and messed up, and had to do it again, so maybe that's it.
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Here is what I see FYI Thanks for the reply Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. We can’t connect to the server at codename-indigo.com. If you entered the right address, you can: Try again later Check your network connection Check that Firefox has permission to access the web (you might be connected but behind a firewall)
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Is there anyone here who works on systems that print food labels. The specific ones I'm thinking about are small sachets of soy sauce, or the labels printed for in-store, freshly baked bread. The labels that are 90% whitespace with 2pt high text that you almost need a microscope to read. The trend of unreadably-tiny-font-on-an-area-that-could-accomodate-a-billboard seems to have been increasing in the past few years and I would love an actual reason for it. My guesses 1. They don't actually want you to read the labels. They package the raisin bread with the whole grain bread in the same exact package, label, tie, everything, with the only difference being the teeny tiny words that allow you distinguish, in the mood lighting of the bread department, what it actually is. It makes shifting unwanted inventory easier
2. They have software that can't scale a font to make it fit the space, and also have to cater to labels that are potentially 1024 characters long, so they take space / # chars = microscopic font. Problem solved!
3. Someone in accounting worked out that based on font size, total chars printed, total number of labels, and the cost of ink, they would save $5.47 each year if they printed in 2pt font size.
4. No one involved from label design to product creation to printing to stocking has ever actually tried purchasing a product printed like this in an actual store. To save time and money they did zero usability testing
5. They are simply evil. Can anyone shed some light here?cheers Chris Maunder
I too despise the way they (manufacturers) handle this however you have to keep in mind that there are always government regulations, sometimes at multiple levels, that have to be followed. I imagine what they put on them is required and the text has to fit and sometimes on something small. This of course doesn't explain this for other products that have larger containers but I imagine the same machine(s) are used to do the text regardless of the packaging (regardless of it's size) and so instead of changing up font sizes they leave it as is using whatever is the smallest font that works on all products they make. Plants that produce the boxes/packaging used to box up and ship just about anything don't have different machines for each container size/type they make. They will typically have a few going and each will make 1 or more batches of a specific box/container and then they switch the machine up to do another type of box/container. You can bet that the majority of them would rather you not read any of that info (there are a few more health conscious companies that do want you to read that stuff). There's way too many different sized and shaped containers to have a separate machine making each one.
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Here is what I see FYI Thanks for the reply Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. We can’t connect to the server at codename-indigo.com. If you entered the right address, you can: Try again later Check your network connection Check that Firefox has permission to access the web (you might be connected but behind a firewall)
I took that website down years ago, back in 2018 I think, and replaced it with my new Code Project Footer "Discover my world at" @ jkirkerx.com right after that. I remember Chris giving me a hard time about the how Code Project writes the footers in real time, to what ever the footer is at the moment you post, so you can't change the footer in all your posts at one time. Strange that your seeing that. Codename Indigo was a failed project, where I attempted to make ecommerce technology in Microsoft .Net with MVC using views, and then discovered Angular and went that direction instead, and got stumped in Mar of 2020, when I decided to outsource this technology to Ebay and Amazon to see how they do it. After that, my online business took off to heights I never imagined to be possible, and is the source if my income, But my jkirkerx.com did actually generate some good leads, that turned into huge projects lasting for years. But soon, jkirkerx.com will change again, after my trademarks with USPTO get approved so I can go to the next level of marketing with my online business and code business.
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Is there anyone here who works on systems that print food labels. The specific ones I'm thinking about are small sachets of soy sauce, or the labels printed for in-store, freshly baked bread. The labels that are 90% whitespace with 2pt high text that you almost need a microscope to read. The trend of unreadably-tiny-font-on-an-area-that-could-accomodate-a-billboard seems to have been increasing in the past few years and I would love an actual reason for it. My guesses 1. They don't actually want you to read the labels. They package the raisin bread with the whole grain bread in the same exact package, label, tie, everything, with the only difference being the teeny tiny words that allow you distinguish, in the mood lighting of the bread department, what it actually is. It makes shifting unwanted inventory easier
2. They have software that can't scale a font to make it fit the space, and also have to cater to labels that are potentially 1024 characters long, so they take space / # chars = microscopic font. Problem solved!
3. Someone in accounting worked out that based on font size, total chars printed, total number of labels, and the cost of ink, they would save $5.47 each year if they printed in 2pt font size.
4. No one involved from label design to product creation to printing to stocking has ever actually tried purchasing a product printed like this in an actual store. To save time and money they did zero usability testing
5. They are simply evil. Can anyone shed some light here?cheers Chris Maunder
I'm voting for number one; they don't want me to read the label. The teeny tiniest print I find is for the ingredients list on cat food cans, where I want to know if it has actual fish in it or just guar gum and crab shells.
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Is there anyone here who works on systems that print food labels. The specific ones I'm thinking about are small sachets of soy sauce, or the labels printed for in-store, freshly baked bread. The labels that are 90% whitespace with 2pt high text that you almost need a microscope to read. The trend of unreadably-tiny-font-on-an-area-that-could-accomodate-a-billboard seems to have been increasing in the past few years and I would love an actual reason for it. My guesses 1. They don't actually want you to read the labels. They package the raisin bread with the whole grain bread in the same exact package, label, tie, everything, with the only difference being the teeny tiny words that allow you distinguish, in the mood lighting of the bread department, what it actually is. It makes shifting unwanted inventory easier
2. They have software that can't scale a font to make it fit the space, and also have to cater to labels that are potentially 1024 characters long, so they take space / # chars = microscopic font. Problem solved!
3. Someone in accounting worked out that based on font size, total chars printed, total number of labels, and the cost of ink, they would save $5.47 each year if they printed in 2pt font size.
4. No one involved from label design to product creation to printing to stocking has ever actually tried purchasing a product printed like this in an actual store. To save time and money they did zero usability testing
5. They are simply evil. Can anyone shed some light here?cheers Chris Maunder
Its not just food. WD "My passport" serial number is so small a magnifying glass barley helped. Amazon receipt allowed me to get the right string - too bad WD registration splotch app still said was bad Id - just make things so small no one will ever get them right and corps will never have a liability to support stuff (as if it mattered) - also a piece of crap db lookup to confirm correct makes it set in stone like the mafia with cement galoshes
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Is there anyone here who works on systems that print food labels. The specific ones I'm thinking about are small sachets of soy sauce, or the labels printed for in-store, freshly baked bread. The labels that are 90% whitespace with 2pt high text that you almost need a microscope to read. The trend of unreadably-tiny-font-on-an-area-that-could-accomodate-a-billboard seems to have been increasing in the past few years and I would love an actual reason for it. My guesses 1. They don't actually want you to read the labels. They package the raisin bread with the whole grain bread in the same exact package, label, tie, everything, with the only difference being the teeny tiny words that allow you distinguish, in the mood lighting of the bread department, what it actually is. It makes shifting unwanted inventory easier
2. They have software that can't scale a font to make it fit the space, and also have to cater to labels that are potentially 1024 characters long, so they take space / # chars = microscopic font. Problem solved!
3. Someone in accounting worked out that based on font size, total chars printed, total number of labels, and the cost of ink, they would save $5.47 each year if they printed in 2pt font size.
4. No one involved from label design to product creation to printing to stocking has ever actually tried purchasing a product printed like this in an actual store. To save time and money they did zero usability testing
5. They are simply evil. Can anyone shed some light here?cheers Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote:
in the past few years and I would love an actual reason for it.
At least for food the required number of items that must be on a food label have increased. Like whether there are nuts or processed where nuts might have been used in something else.