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  • G Gary Wheeler

    Same here. I had a coworker (since retired) who would put off updates for days. To complicate matters, our IT dept. had an application on our machines that would display a window reminding you to reboot that had the "stay on top" enabled. It could be moved out of the way temporarily, but it would move itself back center screen once an hour. He would calmly move it back, every hour :rolleyes: .

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    Nelek
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    Gary Wheeler wrote:

    He would calmly move it back, every hour :rolleyes: .

    After having some problems with HDD encryption (Based on Hardware) after adding a second ETH-Card and all the fight I had with the corporate HelpDesk... I do exactly the same with the "you need to encrypt your D: - Accept - Not Now". Lucky me it only appears 3 times per day.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      Gary Wheeler wrote:

      He would calmly move it back, every hour :rolleyes: .

      After having some problems with HDD encryption (Based on Hardware) after adding a second ETH-Card and all the fight I had with the corporate HelpDesk... I do exactly the same with the "you need to encrypt your D: - Accept - Not Now". Lucky me it only appears 3 times per day.

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      Gary Wheeler
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      Nelek wrote:

      "you need to encrypt your D: - Accept - Not Now"

      We have that with McAfee Endpoint Encryption. I got so tired of dismissing the dialog that I wrote a little app to watch for the popup and to click the button that dismissed it.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      • G Gary Wheeler

        Nelek wrote:

        "you need to encrypt your D: - Accept - Not Now"

        We have that with McAfee Endpoint Encryption. I got so tired of dismissing the dialog that I wrote a little app to watch for the popup and to click the button that dismissed it.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        Nelek
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        Content for a small tip? No time to think it out myself right now ;P GIMME CODEZZZZZ, PLZZZ, IT'S URGENTZZZZ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: My luck is, it happens only in the PC (laptop has password), so it only bothers me, when I need to RDP in the PC for accessing the isolated intranet. For the rest I use the laptop.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • S snorkie

          I always try to schedule it for overnight so I don't have to think about. Until I come back to the machine and ask why the heck none of my applications are open.

          Hogan

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          DerekT P
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          snorkie wrote:

          Until I come back to the machine and ask why the heck none of my applications are open Windows is asking if it's OK to close Notepad

          FTFY

          Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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            Rich Leyshon wrote:

            I'd love to know how they come up with the estimated times to restart your PC for a Windows update

            It's inversely proportional to your necessity of having a working machine. So, if you are just turning on your computer for grins then it will only take milliseconds. However, if you have an imminent Teams meeting with all 3 of your supervisors and you've just woken up for the day and your machine must be on, then it will take days. :laugh: Yes, this is based upon my own experience. :rolleyes:

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            MikeCO10
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            Now, there's the correct answer! Though I've found it's usually then followed by a Zoom update, that is pretty quick but trashes settings and screen layouts so you can spend the first minutes of the meeting fumbling to get those reset; and that's always a meeting where someone has to ask you a question in the first 10 seconds!

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            • R Rich Leyshon

              I'd love to know how they come up with the estimated times to restart your PC for a Windows update. Do they just see how long it takes on the top-of-the-range development machine with a nuclear powered CPU and liquid nitrogen cooling and hard code that time, or is there some "cleverness" that theoretically looks at the actual PC concerned and makes an estimate? Today's update was estimated at 3 minutes. Actual time to get back to a "normal-looking" screen was 16 minutes. It was 22 mins before CPU and disc usage dropped enough to make it usable. Does anyone else receive more realistic estimates?

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              MikeCO10
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              Sure, the estimates are realistic. They are based on the percent of completion that is on your screen. The percent of completion is based on the following: 1. The current moon phase 2. How close your dog is to you 3. The inverse of the day of the week number, i.e. they take longer on Mondays 4. As @raddevus said

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              It's inversely proportional to your necessity of having a working machine.

              5. How full your coffee cup is; also an inverse relation The formula has been very consistent for the past 25 years :-D

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              • S snorkie

                I always try to schedule it for overnight so I don't have to think about. Until I come back to the machine and ask why the heck none of my applications are open.

                Hogan

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                Mark Starr
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                Oh not me. I sit patiently watching whatever messages or counters are on the screen and listen for any unnatural clicks or whirring. Not so satisfying now that I’ve switched to SSDs. But habits are deep. And, I ride a Harley, so listening for odd noises is a very ingrained habit. :) :)

                Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                • M MikeCO10

                  Sure, the estimates are realistic. They are based on the percent of completion that is on your screen. The percent of completion is based on the following: 1. The current moon phase 2. How close your dog is to you 3. The inverse of the day of the week number, i.e. they take longer on Mondays 4. As @raddevus said

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                  It's inversely proportional to your necessity of having a working machine.

                  5. How full your coffee cup is; also an inverse relation The formula has been very consistent for the past 25 years :-D

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                  trønderen
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                  MikeCO10 wrote:

                  5. How full your coffee cup is; also an inverse relation

                  If you invert the cup, it will most certainly be empty.

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                  • R Rich Leyshon

                    I'd love to know how they come up with the estimated times to restart your PC for a Windows update. Do they just see how long it takes on the top-of-the-range development machine with a nuclear powered CPU and liquid nitrogen cooling and hard code that time, or is there some "cleverness" that theoretically looks at the actual PC concerned and makes an estimate? Today's update was estimated at 3 minutes. Actual time to get back to a "normal-looking" screen was 16 minutes. It was 22 mins before CPU and disc usage dropped enough to make it usable. Does anyone else receive more realistic estimates?

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                    sasadler
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                    I don't bother looking at the estimate any more (it's nice to be retired!!). I'll just start the update for the Windows VM and then switch back over to the Linux side of my system and continue browsing or whatever.

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                    • R Rich Leyshon

                      I'd love to know how they come up with the estimated times to restart your PC for a Windows update. Do they just see how long it takes on the top-of-the-range development machine with a nuclear powered CPU and liquid nitrogen cooling and hard code that time, or is there some "cleverness" that theoretically looks at the actual PC concerned and makes an estimate? Today's update was estimated at 3 minutes. Actual time to get back to a "normal-looking" screen was 16 minutes. It was 22 mins before CPU and disc usage dropped enough to make it usable. Does anyone else receive more realistic estimates?

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                      OldDBA
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                      Yesterday: Win 10 Desktop update in under 3 minutes; Win 11 Laptop in about 3 minutes; Win 10 laptop around an hour (Only one without an SSD).

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