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Another untalked about MS step backwards...

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    I got a new computer a few months ago with Win 11. I've always had File Manager set to 'expand to current folder' because it was helpful for things like dragging folders out of zip files into a parent - that sort of thing. I'd noticed that it didn't work in Win 11, although I'd remembered it working in 10. Did a search and found that you can 'Ctrl-Shift-E' to expand to current folder. It works. So MS now disregards the 'Expand to current folder' setting in the options. X| X| X| By 'not working' I mean that if you click on 'Documents' in the 'pinned' or 'recently used' folders, or whatever section of Explorer that is, and then drill down into those directories in the right-hand pane, the folders aren't expanded in the left. If you go down to 'This PC', 'Local Disk...' and continue drilling down there, it works. I don't remember this limitation in Win10. So now have to remember another keyboard shortcut - get too many of them to remember - that's why I used the 'options' setting.

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      I got a new computer a few months ago with Win 11. I've always had File Manager set to 'expand to current folder' because it was helpful for things like dragging folders out of zip files into a parent - that sort of thing. I'd noticed that it didn't work in Win 11, although I'd remembered it working in 10. Did a search and found that you can 'Ctrl-Shift-E' to expand to current folder. It works. So MS now disregards the 'Expand to current folder' setting in the options. X| X| X| By 'not working' I mean that if you click on 'Documents' in the 'pinned' or 'recently used' folders, or whatever section of Explorer that is, and then drill down into those directories in the right-hand pane, the folders aren't expanded in the left. If you go down to 'This PC', 'Local Disk...' and continue drilling down there, it works. I don't remember this limitation in Win10. So now have to remember another keyboard shortcut - get too many of them to remember - that's why I used the 'options' setting.

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      Ravi Bhavnani
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      Does this not work in Win11?  :( Am I able to expand the folders in the quick access section of the file explorer?[^] /ravi

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        Does this not work in Win11?  :( Am I able to expand the folders in the quick access section of the file explorer?[^] /ravi

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        David ONeil
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        Not for me. I did see something elsewhere about clearing some registry entries somewhere (or something) and rebooting, but didn't try it. Looking at the previous, I think I need to work 'everywhere' and 'nowhere' into this post somehow. I'll give it more thought...

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          I got a new computer a few months ago with Win 11. I've always had File Manager set to 'expand to current folder' because it was helpful for things like dragging folders out of zip files into a parent - that sort of thing. I'd noticed that it didn't work in Win 11, although I'd remembered it working in 10. Did a search and found that you can 'Ctrl-Shift-E' to expand to current folder. It works. So MS now disregards the 'Expand to current folder' setting in the options. X| X| X| By 'not working' I mean that if you click on 'Documents' in the 'pinned' or 'recently used' folders, or whatever section of Explorer that is, and then drill down into those directories in the right-hand pane, the folders aren't expanded in the left. If you go down to 'This PC', 'Local Disk...' and continue drilling down there, it works. I don't remember this limitation in Win10. So now have to remember another keyboard shortcut - get too many of them to remember - that's why I used the 'options' setting.

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          inariy
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          Send them letter. I prefer oMega commander.

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            I got a new computer a few months ago with Win 11. I've always had File Manager set to 'expand to current folder' because it was helpful for things like dragging folders out of zip files into a parent - that sort of thing. I'd noticed that it didn't work in Win 11, although I'd remembered it working in 10. Did a search and found that you can 'Ctrl-Shift-E' to expand to current folder. It works. So MS now disregards the 'Expand to current folder' setting in the options. X| X| X| By 'not working' I mean that if you click on 'Documents' in the 'pinned' or 'recently used' folders, or whatever section of Explorer that is, and then drill down into those directories in the right-hand pane, the folders aren't expanded in the left. If you go down to 'This PC', 'Local Disk...' and continue drilling down there, it works. I don't remember this limitation in Win10. So now have to remember another keyboard shortcut - get too many of them to remember - that's why I used the 'options' setting.

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            Another feature they borked is that you could edit properties directly in the preview pane. I used it for MP3 a lot, but it doesn't work anymore. At least the task bar is sort of back to its old self (but now with bugs, like half width programs or even just the icon without description). Start menu is still less than what it was. All in all, Windows 11 is a bit of a wreck where they maybe(?) fixed some stuff, but borked everything I use ALL the time and that has worked for the past 30 years...

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              Another feature they borked is that you could edit properties directly in the preview pane. I used it for MP3 a lot, but it doesn't work anymore. At least the task bar is sort of back to its old self (but now with bugs, like half width programs or even just the icon without description). Start menu is still less than what it was. All in all, Windows 11 is a bit of a wreck where they maybe(?) fixed some stuff, but borked everything I use ALL the time and that has worked for the past 30 years...

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              And don't forget their hubris!

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                Another feature they borked is that you could edit properties directly in the preview pane. I used it for MP3 a lot, but it doesn't work anymore. At least the task bar is sort of back to its old self (but now with bugs, like half width programs or even just the icon without description). Start menu is still less than what it was. All in all, Windows 11 is a bit of a wreck where they maybe(?) fixed some stuff, but borked everything I use ALL the time and that has worked for the past 30 years...

                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                PS - StartAllBack is the best alternative I've found. Not as good as the older options available for Win 10, but at least it gives me a hierarchical folder structure I can customize instead of tiles. Call me old-fashioned if you want, but I still consider Win 7 to be the peak of Windows design. Even the glass interface was well thought out. None of this "When active, becomes transparent - when inactive becomes non-transparent" crap. Because you reminded me about StartAllBack, I finally purchased an official copy to support the author.

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                  PS - StartAllBack is the best alternative I've found. Not as good as the older options available for Win 10, but at least it gives me a hierarchical folder structure I can customize instead of tiles. Call me old-fashioned if you want, but I still consider Win 7 to be the peak of Windows design. Even the glass interface was well thought out. None of this "When active, becomes transparent - when inactive becomes non-transparent" crap. Because you reminded me about StartAllBack, I finally purchased an official copy to support the author.

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                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  I still consider Win 7 to be the peak of Windows design

                  This. At least, Microsoft has finally rediscovered colors, even if only a tiny bit, with Windows 11...I've said numerous times the Windows 10 Settings page, for one, looks like it would be right at home rendered by a [CGA video card](https://imgur.com/cxzmb2e), except that CGA offers an extra color...

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                    PS - StartAllBack is the best alternative I've found. Not as good as the older options available for Win 10, but at least it gives me a hierarchical folder structure I can customize instead of tiles. Call me old-fashioned if you want, but I still consider Win 7 to be the peak of Windows design. Even the glass interface was well thought out. None of this "When active, becomes transparent - when inactive becomes non-transparent" crap. Because you reminded me about StartAllBack, I finally purchased an official copy to support the author.

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                      Thanks for the link. It is nice, but it lacks jump lists, or whatever they are called. (For instance, being able to pin things to start menu items, like a word document, so that right-clicking on a pinned start menu 'Word' icon brings up a list with recent documents, and the pinned one at the top.) - edit: https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-10-jump-lists-guide/[^]: Not exactly a great tutorial, but kinda gives the idea.

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