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And so this is just a problem there?

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    From CP newsletter. the rust project has a burnout problem[^] The author is lamenting that some developers on Rust are suffering from burnout. And then describing an environment where new contributors either have no mentor or the mentor leaves. When I read that I think so what? Seems like a description of almost everything. Certainly every company I have worked for. Only time that didn't happened was when the company went bankrupt before those working there got tired. When I look for new libraries I look for robust user communities because I have used libraries before where there were few or even one developer. Props for the continued support but for long term use even popular libraries have suffered from reduced support. I have even seen that at night clubs and restaurants. First two years after they open you can't get in the door. 2 years later they have shut the door. (Actually I think I know of a promoter/company that specifically relies on that model.)

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      From CP newsletter. the rust project has a burnout problem[^] The author is lamenting that some developers on Rust are suffering from burnout. And then describing an environment where new contributors either have no mentor or the mentor leaves. When I read that I think so what? Seems like a description of almost everything. Certainly every company I have worked for. Only time that didn't happened was when the company went bankrupt before those working there got tired. When I look for new libraries I look for robust user communities because I have used libraries before where there were few or even one developer. Props for the continued support but for long term use even popular libraries have suffered from reduced support. I have even seen that at night clubs and restaurants. First two years after they open you can't get in the door. 2 years later they have shut the door. (Actually I think I know of a promoter/company that specifically relies on that model.)

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      Lost User
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      Bad naming. Just the other day, I broke through a mental fog by renaming some modules, methods, etc. to better reflect what they were doing. I'm now wheeling and rotating and charging and following when before I was just "moving".

      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        From CP newsletter. the rust project has a burnout problem[^] The author is lamenting that some developers on Rust are suffering from burnout. And then describing an environment where new contributors either have no mentor or the mentor leaves. When I read that I think so what? Seems like a description of almost everything. Certainly every company I have worked for. Only time that didn't happened was when the company went bankrupt before those working there got tired. When I look for new libraries I look for robust user communities because I have used libraries before where there were few or even one developer. Props for the continued support but for long term use even popular libraries have suffered from reduced support. I have even seen that at night clubs and restaurants. First two years after they open you can't get in the door. 2 years later they have shut the door. (Actually I think I know of a promoter/company that specifically relies on that model.)

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        What probably doesn't help is that among developers, especially young developers, there is a certain mindset. Burning midnight oil, working stupid hours, often unpaid, is considered some sort of flex. I see this in corporate environments as well: the people most likely to burn out are those who do not set boundaries and want to solve everything / feel responsible for everything. The people most likely to last are the ones who like their job but at the end of their shift say: the rest can wait till tomorrow.

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