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    From CP newsletter https://www.codeproject.com/News.aspx?ntag=19837497830328834&_z=2928472[^] Headline basically says it all. "Can an AI Become Its Own CEO After Creating a Startup? Google DeepMind Co-Founder Thinks So" Naturally this is nonsense. Certainly in the US and other countries I suspect. To start a 'company' or even something like a LLC or even to get a business license an actual human has to submit the forms. That person ends up signing the legal documents. And AI cannot do that. Even if an AI could in fact become sentient in just 6 years (as claimed by the CEO) that would still need to be recognized as a legal entity by the judicial system. --------------------------------------------------- The document also references a recent UK court case. "A recent ruling in the U.K. argues that an AI definitively cannot be a patent holder. " Phrasing of that is odd. The suit brought argued that case. The court settled the case. The court did not 'argue' that. That also failed to mention the exact same case that was filed in the US by the same person. Not the CEO mentioned in the link above. That person specifically has claimed that AI is now sentient in other places. This case is just his attempt trying to legally prove that.

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      From CP newsletter https://www.codeproject.com/News.aspx?ntag=19837497830328834&_z=2928472[^] Headline basically says it all. "Can an AI Become Its Own CEO After Creating a Startup? Google DeepMind Co-Founder Thinks So" Naturally this is nonsense. Certainly in the US and other countries I suspect. To start a 'company' or even something like a LLC or even to get a business license an actual human has to submit the forms. That person ends up signing the legal documents. And AI cannot do that. Even if an AI could in fact become sentient in just 6 years (as claimed by the CEO) that would still need to be recognized as a legal entity by the judicial system. --------------------------------------------------- The document also references a recent UK court case. "A recent ruling in the U.K. argues that an AI definitively cannot be a patent holder. " Phrasing of that is odd. The suit brought argued that case. The court settled the case. The court did not 'argue' that. That also failed to mention the exact same case that was filed in the US by the same person. Not the CEO mentioned in the link above. That person specifically has claimed that AI is now sentient in other places. This case is just his attempt trying to legally prove that.

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      No AI cannot start company - that is a totally misleading title. It implements only AI's can start a company.

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        No AI cannot start company - that is a totally misleading title. It implements only AI's can start a company.

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        Eats, shoots and leaves... :-D

        Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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          Eats, shoots and leaves... :-D

          Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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          [Giant Panda](https://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5952882/WSO-CCC-OTD-2023-07-19)

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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            From CP newsletter https://www.codeproject.com/News.aspx?ntag=19837497830328834&_z=2928472[^] Headline basically says it all. "Can an AI Become Its Own CEO After Creating a Startup? Google DeepMind Co-Founder Thinks So" Naturally this is nonsense. Certainly in the US and other countries I suspect. To start a 'company' or even something like a LLC or even to get a business license an actual human has to submit the forms. That person ends up signing the legal documents. And AI cannot do that. Even if an AI could in fact become sentient in just 6 years (as claimed by the CEO) that would still need to be recognized as a legal entity by the judicial system. --------------------------------------------------- The document also references a recent UK court case. "A recent ruling in the U.K. argues that an AI definitively cannot be a patent holder. " Phrasing of that is odd. The suit brought argued that case. The court settled the case. The court did not 'argue' that. That also failed to mention the exact same case that was filed in the US by the same person. Not the CEO mentioned in the link above. That person specifically has claimed that AI is now sentient in other places. This case is just his attempt trying to legally prove that.

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            I see such ridiculous claims about AI. Meanwhile, my own experience is somewhat different. I'm using Azure Document Intelligence/Form Recognizer. In some cases it reads "420" as "42C" and "NW" as "NV". It also thinks the net weight on an invoice is the total price in about 1 of 50 invoices. There's really no intelligence there, although it's still impressive it reads 49/50 invoices correct without any training on my part. It's till useless because 1/50 is an unacceptable error margin if you have 150 invoices a day.

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              I see such ridiculous claims about AI. Meanwhile, my own experience is somewhat different. I'm using Azure Document Intelligence/Form Recognizer. In some cases it reads "420" as "42C" and "NW" as "NV". It also thinks the net weight on an invoice is the total price in about 1 of 50 invoices. There's really no intelligence there, although it's still impressive it reads 49/50 invoices correct without any training on my part. It's till useless because 1/50 is an unacceptable error margin if you have 150 invoices a day.

              Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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              Sander Rossel wrote:

              It also thinks the net weight on an invoice is the total price in about 1 of 50 invoices.

              Amusing. Since you know that the error rate exists does the processing actually help? Perhaps faster to visually verify than re-type?

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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                It also thinks the net weight on an invoice is the total price in about 1 of 50 invoices.

                Amusing. Since you know that the error rate exists does the processing actually help? Perhaps faster to visually verify than re-type?

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                The use case is a bizarre one... Our customer's accounting software creates two versions of the same invoice :wtf: :omg: X| They found out when they were about to send a bailiff to their customer for not paying and then their customer called that they'd paid the exact amount that was on the invoice, which was not the amount they were looking at :omg: We're using AI to read the PDF from the e-mail and compare it to the data in the database. If the two values are different we send out an e-mail. So what we saw is that we get about one e-mail for every 50 invoices, except when we checked them they were the same. And so we found out the AI thinks the net weight is the total amount about once every 50 invoices :~

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