Learning to despise MS in all sorts of new ways....
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So, these days I have a few medical issues I'm working on... I try to login to my doctor's portal, and it's unable to handle Opera. Oh really? 40 years after all this got started, and you won't handle opera? Get it to come up in Edge - finally - and the f'ing icon is using my login information. I think not. Off to vpn for me. You're not paranoid if they really are listening and harvesting your data. I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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So, these days I have a few medical issues I'm working on... I try to login to my doctor's portal, and it's unable to handle Opera. Oh really? 40 years after all this got started, and you won't handle opera? Get it to come up in Edge - finally - and the f'ing icon is using my login information. I think not. Off to vpn for me. You're not paranoid if they really are listening and harvesting your data. I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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So, these days I have a few medical issues I'm working on... I try to login to my doctor's portal, and it's unable to handle Opera. Oh really? 40 years after all this got started, and you won't handle opera? Get it to come up in Edge - finally - and the f'ing icon is using my login information. I think not. Off to vpn for me. You're not paranoid if they really are listening and harvesting your data. I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
charlieg wrote:
I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Absolutely, they have only your interest and safety in mind. :)
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So, these days I have a few medical issues I'm working on... I try to login to my doctor's portal, and it's unable to handle Opera. Oh really? 40 years after all this got started, and you won't handle opera? Get it to come up in Edge - finally - and the f'ing icon is using my login information. I think not. Off to vpn for me. You're not paranoid if they really are listening and harvesting your data. I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
Assuming it's not just a cache issue from a previous visit... One of the things Microsoft always did with IE and now Edge was integrate it with Active Directory. You ever notice on some internal sites at work you don't have to login when using Edge but you do in other browsers? That's on purpose. That's usually through AD though, so just guessing even if it's a un-authenticated or non-domain login that peeps can still query enough data to get some account info in Edge regardless. It's supposed to be a "feature", but it's always been there in some form. Mo' Info IMO Firefox and Brave are the only browsers that even remotely pretend to care about your privacy. I say this as a dude who uses Chrome.
Jeremy Falcon
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charlieg wrote:
I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Absolutely, they have only your interest and safety in mind. :)
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If history has taught us anything, we can always trust an authoritarian government. :~
Jeremy Falcon
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when I go to edge, the login photo for me is in the upper left.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
OK I give up, what is a login photo?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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OK I give up, what is a login photo?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me. This appears to be the coordinated effort at MS trying to get me to login all the time. Not going to happen.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me. This appears to be the coordinated effort at MS trying to get me to login all the time. Not going to happen.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
Sounds like the app might allow single sign-on (SSO). I take it your log on to your computer login logs you on to your Microsoft account?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Sounds like the app might allow single sign-on (SSO). I take it your log on to your computer login logs you on to your Microsoft account?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
No sir, all of local accounts on machines are local, I refuse to use the MS based login. But I do think it has to do with Office 365 and Edge "cooperating."
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me. This appears to be the coordinated effort at MS trying to get me to login all the time. Not going to happen.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
A number of times, I've seen a message that "Edge is using my webcam", though Edge is not running. That's why my daughter's have pasted an opaque sticker on their laptop webcams. No spying.
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when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me. This appears to be the coordinated effort at MS trying to get me to login all the time. Not going to happen.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
charlieg wrote:
when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me.
Click on that image, Other Profiles, Browse as Guest. Or pick another profile instead of Guest. Or use InPrivate mode (Ctrl-Shift-N). These profiles are only (primarily) used to determine what credentials the browser should offer to submit, should you be browsing the same sites as different users. Chrome does the same thing.
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Assuming it's not just a cache issue from a previous visit... One of the things Microsoft always did with IE and now Edge was integrate it with Active Directory. You ever notice on some internal sites at work you don't have to login when using Edge but you do in other browsers? That's on purpose. That's usually through AD though, so just guessing even if it's a un-authenticated or non-domain login that peeps can still query enough data to get some account info in Edge regardless. It's supposed to be a "feature", but it's always been there in some form. Mo' Info IMO Firefox and Brave are the only browsers that even remotely pretend to care about your privacy. I say this as a dude who uses Chrome.
Jeremy Falcon
^ This. Chrome has the same sort of profile management built into it. You can "log into the browser" before logging into any site you visit, and thus use different profiles for different purposes. It's actually useful. There's no conspiracy, unless one prefers to always browse in Incognito mode and be asked to enter passwords non-stop.
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^ This. Chrome has the same sort of profile management built into it. You can "log into the browser" before logging into any site you visit, and thus use different profiles for different purposes. It's actually useful. There's no conspiracy, unless one prefers to always browse in Incognito mode and be asked to enter passwords non-stop.
Fo sho. I always use two Chrome profiles. One for business and one for personal use.
Jeremy Falcon
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Fo sho. I always use two Chrome profiles. One for business and one for personal use.
Jeremy Falcon
On a whim, I recently introduced a non-technical neighbor of mine to the concept of profiles. She was constantly fighting web site auto-logins, where it would login as her husband when she meant to login as herself, and vice-versa. She almost instantly "got" the idea behind keeping different profiles, and *loves* the solution. No more manually logging out and then back in, and she can leave her different browser instances each running under a different profile and switch between the two with a single click. She's now saying this completely changed the way she uses a browser (and for the better).
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charlieg wrote:
when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me.
Click on that image, Other Profiles, Browse as Guest. Or pick another profile instead of Guest. Or use InPrivate mode (Ctrl-Shift-N). These profiles are only (primarily) used to determine what credentials the browser should offer to submit, should you be browsing the same sites as different users. Chrome does the same thing.
yeah, and I don't use chrome :). The biggest issue with MS and these online accounts are the merging of all the data. Apple is the premier leader in this space, and even they f'it up.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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yeah, and I don't use chrome :). The biggest issue with MS and these online accounts are the merging of all the data. Apple is the premier leader in this space, and even they f'it up.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote:
and I don't use chrome
Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.
jschell wrote:
Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.
Microsoft claims to have ripped out all the bits that send data back to Google. So there's that. I believe at least that much. Of course that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (and then some), but on the other hand, the OS is more than capable of doing the same. If it's gotta go somewhere, I'd rather have this data go to one company than multiple - one of which being the biggest ad broker that has ever existed.
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charlieg wrote:
and I don't use chrome
Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.
truth - everyone is sharing engines these days. However, Microsoft has started doing more of their historical antics. First, edge naturally assumes I want to share all of my history across all of my devices, etc. I really don't want to do that unless I really want too. Another example, for decades, default programs were driven by the control panel default programs area. MS in it's "wisdom" has now buried a default browser selection inside of Outlook. They are just f'ing around. Like when they moved Documents from your local drive to under the OneDrive.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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jschell wrote:
Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.
Microsoft claims to have ripped out all the bits that send data back to Google. So there's that. I believe at least that much. Of course that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (and then some), but on the other hand, the OS is more than capable of doing the same. If it's gotta go somewhere, I'd rather have this data go to one company than multiple - one of which being the biggest ad broker that has ever existed.
