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    raddevus
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    I asked Copilot about the "Skip to content" feature. My Question

    Raddevus asked:

    Why has the accessibility feature "skip to main content" become prevalent in my browser in the recent weeks, even though I'd never seen it before in past years?

    Copilot Answer

    Copilot answered:

    The “Skip to Main Content” feature has gained prominence recently due to increased awareness and emphasis on web accessibility. When keyboard-only users interact with a webpage, they rely on the tab key to navigate links. If a page has many links at the top (such as in headers or menus), users must tab through them to reach the main content. The “Skip to Main Content” link allows users to bypass these initial sections and jump directly to the main content, enhancing accessibility12. If you encounter this feature more frequently now, it’s likely because website developers are actively implementing it to improve accessibility for all users. 😊

    Ok, whatevs! I know when I'm being gas-lighted (gas-lit?)!! :laugh: The Q-To-That-A (Question To That Answer) Then why is no one else seeing this feature? I must be the only one reading web sites, right? Figured Out How To Recreate It Instantly 1) Go to github.com (or any site that uses the feature): 2) hit your tab key, one time -- you'll see it. But why does mine recently show it if I don't tab? Cease & Desist! No worries, you won't hear about me talking about Skip To Main Content any more. FYI - I posted a question to AskUbuntu[^] (Stack Exchange site).

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      I asked Copilot about the "Skip to content" feature. My Question

      Raddevus asked:

      Why has the accessibility feature "skip to main content" become prevalent in my browser in the recent weeks, even though I'd never seen it before in past years?

      Copilot Answer

      Copilot answered:

      The “Skip to Main Content” feature has gained prominence recently due to increased awareness and emphasis on web accessibility. When keyboard-only users interact with a webpage, they rely on the tab key to navigate links. If a page has many links at the top (such as in headers or menus), users must tab through them to reach the main content. The “Skip to Main Content” link allows users to bypass these initial sections and jump directly to the main content, enhancing accessibility12. If you encounter this feature more frequently now, it’s likely because website developers are actively implementing it to improve accessibility for all users. 😊

      Ok, whatevs! I know when I'm being gas-lighted (gas-lit?)!! :laugh: The Q-To-That-A (Question To That Answer) Then why is no one else seeing this feature? I must be the only one reading web sites, right? Figured Out How To Recreate It Instantly 1) Go to github.com (or any site that uses the feature): 2) hit your tab key, one time -- you'll see it. But why does mine recently show it if I don't tab? Cease & Desist! No worries, you won't hear about me talking about Skip To Main Content any more. FYI - I posted a question to AskUbuntu[^] (Stack Exchange site).

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      raddevus wrote:

      Ok, whatevs! I know when I'm being gas-lighted (gas-lit?)!!

      This is my beef with "experts"... they're not really experts. It's more ego than progress. I'm sure Copilot is just regurgitating what it read online, which ironically is just like most people. :laugh: Given the fact that tabbing is the _only_ place this makes sense. You'd think a smart dev would only make that appear after the first non-form tab key is pressed and the current tab index doesn't exist in the main content. That way, it won't interfere with anyone except those who would actually use it. A little bit of knowledge is "dangerous" and this seems to be a another case of not knowing enough but still wanting to feel smart and throwing crap out there anyway.

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        raddevus wrote:

        Ok, whatevs! I know when I'm being gas-lighted (gas-lit?)!!

        This is my beef with "experts"... they're not really experts. It's more ego than progress. I'm sure Copilot is just regurgitating what it read online, which ironically is just like most people. :laugh: Given the fact that tabbing is the _only_ place this makes sense. You'd think a smart dev would only make that appear after the first non-form tab key is pressed and the current tab index doesn't exist in the main content. That way, it won't interfere with anyone except those who would actually use it. A little bit of knowledge is "dangerous" and this seems to be a another case of not knowing enough but still wanting to feel smart and throwing crap out there anyway.

        Jeremy Falcon

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        Exactly! Thanks for your post. I really appreciate it. Often people just take the surface answer and run with it. But that surface answer isn't even really right, they just get lucky. In this case eveyrone is just saying "Oh, it's a prevalent thing now." Ok, in the last 2 weeks? I actually searched for docs showing how to do this and they are 2-3 years old. The feature has been out there for a while. There's a famous case of a surgeon (did a TED talk). He had a patient and told her, "Oh, you need this surgery." He was excited to cut into the patient and do this cool thing. The patient paused and looked at him with big eyes, "Are you sure that is absolutely necessary?" In that moment, for some reason, he woke up and said, "No, not really. We could just do this." They applied the optional treatment with great success with no need to open up the patient! Let's get to the real answer, not just the surface one. Oh, but that does take longer than it takes to read a Meme-pic! Oh, sorry, Modern-Social-Media-Consumer, does that require thinking on your part? :rolleyes: Update: Found the link about doctor[^].

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          Exactly! Thanks for your post. I really appreciate it. Often people just take the surface answer and run with it. But that surface answer isn't even really right, they just get lucky. In this case eveyrone is just saying "Oh, it's a prevalent thing now." Ok, in the last 2 weeks? I actually searched for docs showing how to do this and they are 2-3 years old. The feature has been out there for a while. There's a famous case of a surgeon (did a TED talk). He had a patient and told her, "Oh, you need this surgery." He was excited to cut into the patient and do this cool thing. The patient paused and looked at him with big eyes, "Are you sure that is absolutely necessary?" In that moment, for some reason, he woke up and said, "No, not really. We could just do this." They applied the optional treatment with great success with no need to open up the patient! Let's get to the real answer, not just the surface one. Oh, but that does take longer than it takes to read a Meme-pic! Oh, sorry, Modern-Social-Media-Consumer, does that require thinking on your part? :rolleyes: Update: Found the link about doctor[^].

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          raddevus wrote:

          Exactly! Thanks for your post. I really appreciate it.

          Any time man.

          raddevus wrote:

          Often people just take the surface answer and run with it.

          I've learned the hard way the vast, vast majority of people can't see past the surface. Usually, their entire existence is nothing but external stimuli telling them how to think. Then there are those who think they don't do that, but still do. :omg:

          raddevus wrote:

          In this case eveyrone is just saying "Oh, it's a prevalent thing now." Ok, in the last 2 weeks?

          Seems like a case of change for change's sake. Not out of improvement, but out of boredom. Can't get girlfriend. Won't go outside. Hmmm.... I know... let's add a friggin div MFer! :laugh:

          raddevus wrote:

          They applied the optional treatment with great success with no need to open up the patient!

          Good for her. IMO that surgeon is unethical, and I doubt he's the only one like that. I bet if it was his body he'd think twice.

          raddevus wrote:

          Oh, sorry, Modern-Social-Media-Consumer, does that require thinking on your part?

          Most people never think. They're just streams of consciousness at best (being nice here). Then there are those who think they think, pretend they think, etc. Both of these crowds will violently defend not thinking. Not kidding. Only a very small percentage of people actually think.. very, very small.

          Jeremy Falcon

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