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There are times when I think the world is rather mad.

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Here in the Uk, even bottled water has a BBE ... but that's the bottle's fault as the plastic starts to leach chemicals into the water after a certain point. When I was involved in industrial ink jet printers customers assumed that the BBE on teh ink cartridges was to make us more money - and they did due to a process called "flocculation" which caused the pigment to clump up and block filters in the print head which then had to be scrapped and replaced at a serious cost ...* :-D * I did fit a replaceable filter between the ink cartridge and the head which filtered out 5 micron particles to save the "last ditch" 10 micron head filter, but ignore it for too long and flocculation would occur in the head itself and stuff it right up. Particularly if you didn't replace the cartridge filter when recommended.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    pkfox
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    you still can't spell teh can you :)

    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      That is just generally good advice ... they are dirty little disease factories, after all! :-D

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      There's a reason that Centers for Disease Control and Child Development Center have the same abbreviation - CDC.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I just bought a set of three USB-C to USB-C cables and they arrived in a nice little box. With a User Manual. For a cable.* :sigh: * Which doesn't include the instructions to plug it in ...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Vivi Chellappa
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        Real programmers don’t read any manual.đŸ˜‚đŸ˜‚đŸ˜‚

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        • pkfoxP pkfox

          I remember a Honda manual that stated "do not eat this manual"

          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          trønderen
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          I guess that is because if every customer did, the load on their customer support would most likely increase.

          Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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          • R Rick York

            I did a project once for a purveyor of very expensive ink. The goal of the project was to measure the volume of individual drops of ink from an inkjet printer. It was measured in units of picoliters. That was one of the very few projects I ever worked on where I never actually understand the point. Something amusing: the word picoliters is being highlighted as misspelled. The suggested correction is helicopters. :laugh:

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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            Probably one of the Xaar heads: when I was working with them the droplet volume was either 40 or 80 picolitres* depending on the head you used. And none of the distributors could understand that the amount of ink you used per print depended on what characters you printed ... "i" used a lot less ink than "W" :D * I got "picolitre's", "kilometers", and "picolitres'" as corrections.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • pkfoxP pkfox

              you still can't spell teh can you :)

              In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              OriginalGriff
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              It's a feature, not a bug - it's in teh spec on my home page.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                I just bought a set of three USB-C to USB-C cables and they arrived in a nice little box. With a User Manual. For a cable.* :sigh: * Which doesn't include the instructions to plug it in ...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                And that means most of the times you think the world is NOT mad... You should consult someone...

                "If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I just bought a set of three USB-C to USB-C cables and they arrived in a nice little box. With a User Manual. For a cable.* :sigh: * Which doesn't include the instructions to plug it in ...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  [Wonko the Sane | Hitchhikers | Fandom](https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Wonko\_the\_Sane)

                  The toothpick instructions that convinced Wonko mankind in general was crazy:

                  Hold stick near centre of its length. Moisten pointed end in mouth. Insert in tooth space, blunt end next to gum. Use gentle in-out motion./blockquote>

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  • V Vivi Chellappa

                    Real programmers don’t read any manual.đŸ˜‚đŸ˜‚đŸ˜‚

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                    If at first you do not succeed, try and try again. Then dig the manual out of the garbage.

                    Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

                    Within you lies the power for good; Use it!

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                    • A Amarnath S

                      Have heard that pharma companies deliberately underestimate the expiry date on their medicines; however, not sure of how low/high is their 'factor of safety'. Factor of safety = similar to how civil engineers design the dimensions of their structures, with a 'factor of safety'.

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                      Pharmas conduct stability testing on their drugs, which under very carefully controlled conditions determines how long the active ingredients remain effective in the recommended/expected storage conditions. This data determines the BBD, not the desire for increased profits. Obviously there's a deliberate tendency to err on the side of caution, because it's in no-one's interest to have people consuming ageing drugs that no longer work as intended.

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                      • T trønderen

                        In my first university level programming course, the professor introduced the concept of algorithms using the instructions (a.k.a. "manual") on his shampoo bottle: * Wet hair * Apply * Lather * Repeat Actually, the manual was very useful for learning the basics of algorithm, and precision of description. He made a big issue of points such as 'Apply' - the whole bottle? Where should it be applied? what does 'Apply' mean? When he got to 'Repeat' (the first time), there was no indication of what to repeat, so he tried to repeat it all. But he couldn't 'Wet hair', as it was already wet! He reached 'Repeat' a second time, and a third time, and a fourth time ... The hot water tank ran empty, and his shampoo bottle ran empty ... So silly manuals / instructions can serve a purpose, although not necessarily the way the manufacturer intended. A similar experience: A couple of weeks ago I spent the last grains of salt in that 1 kg box. Before I threw the empty box in the garbage, I noticed that it had a 'Best before' date. For table salt?? I consider sodium and chlorine rather stable elements, and the bond between them as well. I would never expect the potency of either to decay much with age. My new box of salt also had a 'Best before' - three years into the future (2027). The old box was expired by two years (I do not use much salt in my cooking), so it was probably bought five years ago. The last few grains had started lumping together; I guess is the reason for the BB date. Not really "best before", but "may start lumping together after 3 years". I know to store salt in a dry place, so for me it took five years. I guess referring to the date in your wedding ring as the BB date can be considered an NSFW joke inappropriate for the Lounge, so I suppose I should leave it out.

                        Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                        I noticed that it had a 'Best before' date. For table salt??

                        Salt is good at collecting humidity. And anything coming with it. Living things are not much a problem, but all else can be.

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                        • A Amarnath S

                          Have heard that pharma companies deliberately underestimate the expiry date on their medicines; however, not sure of how low/high is their 'factor of safety'. Factor of safety = similar to how civil engineers design the dimensions of their structures, with a 'factor of safety'.

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                          Amarnath S wrote:

                          not sure of how low/high is their 'factor of safety'.

                          But do you really want to be the one that signs up for the study that determines that the medicine you have been taking for your condition is not actually working anymore?

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                          • L Lost User

                            Does it include the warning to "always keep away from children"? Which I find nigh on impossible with 10 grandchildren.

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                            Stacy Dudovitz
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                            They give you just enough cable to hang yourself with... :laugh: :laugh: ;P

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                              Amarnath S wrote:

                              not sure of how low/high is their 'factor of safety'.

                              But do you really want to be the one that signs up for the study that determines that the medicine you have been taking for your condition is not actually working anymore?

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                              Maybe then, the placebo effect takes over. "I have taken the medicine, and it's working".

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Probably one of the Xaar heads: when I was working with them the droplet volume was either 40 or 80 picolitres* depending on the head you used. And none of the distributors could understand that the amount of ink you used per print depended on what characters you printed ... "i" used a lot less ink than "W" :D * I got "picolitre's", "kilometers", and "picolitres'" as corrections.

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                the droplet volume was either 40 or 80 picolitres

                                Interesting. My company builds commercial inkjet printers. Our drop volume ranges from 6.5 to 13 picoliters, depending upon the product.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  the droplet volume was either 40 or 80 picolitres

                                  Interesting. My company builds commercial inkjet printers. Our drop volume ranges from 6.5 to 13 picoliters, depending upon the product.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  trønderen
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                                  Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                  Our drop volume ranges from 6.5 to 13 picoliters, depending upon the product.

                                  (my emphasis.) I have a memory of some ink jet printers boasting of variable size droplets: The physical resolution was 300 dpi, but rather than dithering a 600 dpi output, you got 'true' greyish, or less saturated colors, with smaller droplets. I actually thought that this was a standard feature on ink jet printers, but I know no more about them than the average customer (or at least average programmer). Maybe the technology of variable size droplets failed. Maybe it couldn't be used with some dyes for color printers. I don't know. Or maybe the inkjet printers of today do use variable size droplets.

                                  Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                                  • A Amarnath S

                                    Maybe then, the placebo effect takes over. "I have taken the medicine, and it's working".

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                                    trønderen
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                                    Some placebo is so strong that it works even if you don't believe in it.

                                    Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                                    • T trønderen

                                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                      Our drop volume ranges from 6.5 to 13 picoliters, depending upon the product.

                                      (my emphasis.) I have a memory of some ink jet printers boasting of variable size droplets: The physical resolution was 300 dpi, but rather than dithering a 600 dpi output, you got 'true' greyish, or less saturated colors, with smaller droplets. I actually thought that this was a standard feature on ink jet printers, but I know no more about them than the average customer (or at least average programmer). Maybe the technology of variable size droplets failed. Maybe it couldn't be used with some dyes for color printers. I don't know. Or maybe the inkjet printers of today do use variable size droplets.

                                      Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                                      While we do adjust drop size to an extent on-the-fly, it's more for ensuring drop uniformity than achieving different color intensities.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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