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    I was going to make the Subject "It is your computer BUT we will tell you how you can use it" This is a Hardware Question if it should not be in the Lounge Please inform me where to post Config W7 64 bit Pro Firefox browser DuckGo search engine Chrome Block all Cookies I have a VB app that stores data in SQLite DB the name of the YouTube site and a link to open the site with a list of all the videos. A number of things are failing 1 The site will not load content if I use "Open Link in New Window" 2 The site will not load content if I use "Open Link in New Tab" This varies no consistent behavior political ads show Liberty Mutual ad blocked ? ? 3 In Firefox I turned OFF "Block Popup Windows" it was on OFF no change As of now the ads do not show but I am presented with a skip button to close the ad that did not show If I login to Google then Google and Firefox seem to play nice except "Open Link in New Window" Any suggestions on how to make Google and Firefox play nice? Any settings I should change in either ? I did try just using "Block 3rd Party Cookies" ONLY no change

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      I was going to make the Subject "It is your computer BUT we will tell you how you can use it" This is a Hardware Question if it should not be in the Lounge Please inform me where to post Config W7 64 bit Pro Firefox browser DuckGo search engine Chrome Block all Cookies I have a VB app that stores data in SQLite DB the name of the YouTube site and a link to open the site with a list of all the videos. A number of things are failing 1 The site will not load content if I use "Open Link in New Window" 2 The site will not load content if I use "Open Link in New Tab" This varies no consistent behavior political ads show Liberty Mutual ad blocked ? ? 3 In Firefox I turned OFF "Block Popup Windows" it was on OFF no change As of now the ads do not show but I am presented with a skip button to close the ad that did not show If I login to Google then Google and Firefox seem to play nice except "Open Link in New Window" Any suggestions on how to make Google and Firefox play nice? Any settings I should change in either ? I did try just using "Block 3rd Party Cookies" ONLY no change

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      I know that Google Chrome now blocks all 3rd party cookies. As for the other browsers, they may also block 3rd party cookies, but I honestly don't know. It's something I'd have to check. When it comes to blocking all cookies, I think it would inevitably interfere with the function of most web pages. Instead of blocking all cookies, require the browser to prompt you whenever a page sets a cookie. This way, you can allow cookies for the websites you trust, and disallow all other sites by default. Take a look at Google's/YouTube's cross-origin-resource-sharing policy. That could shed some light on things. Google may require you to set some sort of HTTP request header in certain cases. If the problem that you are experiencing occurs in the same way across all browsers, I get the feeling that it would be a CORS issue. You may also want to try disabling all browser extensions to see if that has any effect. I recently encountered a bug on my site. It turns out that a specific plugin was causing the error. I disabled the plugin, and the problem is fixed.

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        I know that Google Chrome now blocks all 3rd party cookies. As for the other browsers, they may also block 3rd party cookies, but I honestly don't know. It's something I'd have to check. When it comes to blocking all cookies, I think it would inevitably interfere with the function of most web pages. Instead of blocking all cookies, require the browser to prompt you whenever a page sets a cookie. This way, you can allow cookies for the websites you trust, and disallow all other sites by default. Take a look at Google's/YouTube's cross-origin-resource-sharing policy. That could shed some light on things. Google may require you to set some sort of HTTP request header in certain cases. If the problem that you are experiencing occurs in the same way across all browsers, I get the feeling that it would be a CORS issue. You may also want to try disabling all browser extensions to see if that has any effect. I recently encountered a bug on my site. It turns out that a specific plugin was causing the error. I disabled the plugin, and the problem is fixed.

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        Steve thanks for the information in the reply I have no "prompt when a page sets a cookie" I did change the Chrome to Block third party cookies" Google's making changes on a daily bases while they are testing this new feature So results are variable based on what I have tried One test is I made Google the default browser in Firefox mixed results still can not use "Open Link in New Window" Lot of info about Google's/YouTube's cross-origin-resource-sharing policy won't bother you with my testing how to leverage this feature End of the day it boils down to "It is our computer BUT we decide how you use it" I started playing with the internet when you were sent a CD to logon with dial up connections YES companies have contributed major improvements but too much monetization on the backs of the user's

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          Steve thanks for the information in the reply I have no "prompt when a page sets a cookie" I did change the Chrome to Block third party cookies" Google's making changes on a daily bases while they are testing this new feature So results are variable based on what I have tried One test is I made Google the default browser in Firefox mixed results still can not use "Open Link in New Window" Lot of info about Google's/YouTube's cross-origin-resource-sharing policy won't bother you with my testing how to leverage this feature End of the day it boils down to "It is our computer BUT we decide how you use it" I started playing with the internet when you were sent a CD to logon with dial up connections YES companies have contributed major improvements but too much monetization on the backs of the user's

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          Choroid wrote:

          Steve thanks for the information in the reply

          No prob :)

          Choroid wrote:

          Google's making changes on a daily bases while they are testing this new feature

          I like how Google works. They're bold when it comes to experimenting with such a myriad of things.

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          CD

          What's CD? Does that stand for something?

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          Lot of info about Google's/YouTube's cross-origin-resource-sharing policy

          I bet there is. Reading the Terms of Service on YouTube alone would take a month. I don't want to know anything about their CORS policy. It scares me. One thing I learned about Google is that by default, they disallow google.com from being placed within an iFrame located on a different origin. That makes sense. Upon inspecting the iFrame, you will see a message sent by Google in response to the iFrame's HTTP request headers. The message says something along the lines of: This page can't be loaded. No request header value for "Some-Google-Header-X" was sent in the HTTP GET request. I forget the name of that header, but I bet if you found out how to get a valid code for that header, it just might work. Make a simple HTML page and write an iFrame element within the body. Set the iFrame's "src" attribute to "https://google.com". Open the HTML page in a browser. The iFrame will fail to load. Hit Ctrl + Shift + I (in Chrome) to view the devtools/console panel. Take a look at the response header for the iFrame. It should specify the name of the header required in order for Google.com to load within the iFrame. Do a Google search using that header's name and you just might find something to address the problem. That would be my next try.

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            I was going to make the Subject "It is your computer BUT we will tell you how you can use it" This is a Hardware Question if it should not be in the Lounge Please inform me where to post Config W7 64 bit Pro Firefox browser DuckGo search engine Chrome Block all Cookies I have a VB app that stores data in SQLite DB the name of the YouTube site and a link to open the site with a list of all the videos. A number of things are failing 1 The site will not load content if I use "Open Link in New Window" 2 The site will not load content if I use "Open Link in New Tab" This varies no consistent behavior political ads show Liberty Mutual ad blocked ? ? 3 In Firefox I turned OFF "Block Popup Windows" it was on OFF no change As of now the ads do not show but I am presented with a skip button to close the ad that did not show If I login to Google then Google and Firefox seem to play nice except "Open Link in New Window" Any suggestions on how to make Google and Firefox play nice? Any settings I should change in either ? I did try just using "Block 3rd Party Cookies" ONLY no change

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            Choroid wrote:

            W7 64 bit Pro [...] Please inform me where to post

            How about 4 years ago? Windows 7 went out of support in January of 2020. Chrome officially dropped support for it in January 2023.

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              Choroid wrote:

              W7 64 bit Pro [...] Please inform me where to post

              How about 4 years ago? Windows 7 went out of support in January of 2020. Chrome officially dropped support for it in January 2023.

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              Glad you keep up on History it made me laugh dandy72 Google may have dropped support but they still try to update and make changes to Chrome Nothing is FREE you pay a price to use BIG tech software but that is not a revelation to anyone in the Lounge

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                Glad you keep up on History it made me laugh dandy72 Google may have dropped support but they still try to update and make changes to Chrome Nothing is FREE you pay a price to use BIG tech software but that is not a revelation to anyone in the Lounge

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                Choroid wrote:

                Google may have dropped support but they still try to update and make changes to Chrome

                ...but can you still install the current versions of Chrome on 7? Otherwise those "updates and changes" don't do much good for your version that's frozen in time. I'm otherwise happy to hear I amuse you. You know what they say about minds that are easily amused.

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                Nothing is FREE you pay a price to use BIG tech software but that is not a revelation to anyone in the Lounge

                It's not, so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up.

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                  Choroid wrote:

                  Steve thanks for the information in the reply

                  No prob :)

                  Choroid wrote:

                  Google's making changes on a daily bases while they are testing this new feature

                  I like how Google works. They're bold when it comes to experimenting with such a myriad of things.

                  Choroid wrote:

                  CD

                  What's CD? Does that stand for something?

                  Choroid wrote:

                  Lot of info about Google's/YouTube's cross-origin-resource-sharing policy

                  I bet there is. Reading the Terms of Service on YouTube alone would take a month. I don't want to know anything about their CORS policy. It scares me. One thing I learned about Google is that by default, they disallow google.com from being placed within an iFrame located on a different origin. That makes sense. Upon inspecting the iFrame, you will see a message sent by Google in response to the iFrame's HTTP request headers. The message says something along the lines of: This page can't be loaded. No request header value for "Some-Google-Header-X" was sent in the HTTP GET request. I forget the name of that header, but I bet if you found out how to get a valid code for that header, it just might work. Make a simple HTML page and write an iFrame element within the body. Set the iFrame's "src" attribute to "https://google.com". Open the HTML page in a browser. The iFrame will fail to load. Hit Ctrl + Shift + I (in Chrome) to view the devtools/console panel. Take a look at the response header for the iFrame. It should specify the name of the header required in order for Google.com to load within the iFrame. Do a Google search using that header's name and you just might find something to address the problem. That would be my next try.

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                  Steve I decided to ask a question and try to solve the issue by opening Google and login when I opened the YouTube video. The mistake I only need to open Chrome.exe then open the YouTube channel. Now everything works sort of the ads show but I just mute or skip after a few second's here is the link to the question with the solution by OG Set default browser from a VB.NET application[^]

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