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    Kent Sharkey
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    The Verge[^]:

    The European Commission is concerned Microsoft is giving Teams an unfair advantage over competitors.

    Next!

    I guess tomorrow will have a Google charge?

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      The Verge[^]:

      The European Commission is concerned Microsoft is giving Teams an unfair advantage over competitors.

      Next!

      I guess tomorrow will have a Google charge?

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      The EU is a little slow. MS unbundled Teams from MS-Office and Microsoft 365 subscriptions last fall.

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        The EU is a little slow. MS unbundled Teams from MS-Office and Microsoft 365 subscriptions last fall.

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        Fanboy and all, but this has always struck me as dumb. Why do we not want more for less and how is that at all anti-consumer? Oh sure, I see why it might tick off other tech giants. I just don't see how anyone was getting shortchanged because a browser came with their OS or Teams comes with Office. And really, aren't we just saying you can't build software that does everything? Where's the limit? Your "app" has two too many features and crosses over into five too many domains? How would it be handled if MSFT or AAPL decided to just go full on subscription IT services provider? They'd stop licensing software altogether. The only "license" is you pay them your subscription for them to access their software. Then you get everything your subscription offers.

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          The EU is a little slow. MS unbundled Teams from MS-Office and Microsoft 365 subscriptions last fall.

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          obermd wrote:

          The EU is a little slow.

          I'm certain a lot of people living within its borders agree with that statement. ;)

          TTFN - Kent

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            obermd wrote:

            The EU is a little slow.

            I'm certain a lot of people living within its borders agree with that statement. ;)

            TTFN - Kent

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            Kent Sharkey wrote:

            I'm certain a lot of people living within its borders agree with that statement. ;)

            oh yes...

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Fanboy and all, but this has always struck me as dumb. Why do we not want more for less and how is that at all anti-consumer? Oh sure, I see why it might tick off other tech giants. I just don't see how anyone was getting shortchanged because a browser came with their OS or Teams comes with Office. And really, aren't we just saying you can't build software that does everything? Where's the limit? Your "app" has two too many features and crosses over into five too many domains? How would it be handled if MSFT or AAPL decided to just go full on subscription IT services provider? They'd stop licensing software altogether. The only "license" is you pay them your subscription for them to access their software. Then you get everything your subscription offers.

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              I hated that Teams was bundled with Office. I have a family Office 365 account (it's cheaper than updating the two Office Professional licenses every five years) and use Microsoft 365 at work. For me to use teams at home prior to the unbundling my personal office license was overridden by my employer's office license, which cause application licensing issues about every 8 to 10 weeks.

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                I hated that Teams was bundled with Office. I have a family Office 365 account (it's cheaper than updating the two Office Professional licenses every five years) and use Microsoft 365 at work. For me to use teams at home prior to the unbundling my personal office license was overridden by my employer's office license, which cause application licensing issues about every 8 to 10 weeks.

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                Ugh. Well that's not pleasant. Seems like oversight though. Like they didn't have different keys and bungled that bundle as a result. Seems like if both (office/teams) just did more of the old school "enter your key" and had different keys for the two it would've worked out. That could be a big argument against them maybe... just having the single key. I imagine they didn't want to get away from the rest of the Office "bundle" and start introducing a key-per-product in the suite but it sure strengthens the case for it actually being "bundled" to begin with.

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