Are my math correct?
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Hello all, Ready to pull the trigger and get a 5k2k 40" monitor. Now I own two 24" QHD monitors which have the text slightly small, that would be 2560x1440@60hz with 122.38ppi. Currently what can be seen in my monitors at 100% and at 125%: https://www.imghippo.com/i/VBMaG1719656408.png[^] The monitor I am about to buy gives 5120x2150@120Hz with 138.92ppi. If I scale it to 125% (windows UI scaling)... would it become 4096x1720@120Hz with 111.06ppi? <-- that's wrong, of course pixel density won't change. But font size at 125% here should be a little bit bigger than the font I have now in my current 24" QHD monitors right? Thank you very much in advance!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
The scaling is tricky. I assume you mean windows scaling in the UI. It doesn't really change the resolution when you do scaling. It mostly makes icons and text bigger. On a 40" compared to 24" you're only going to be 4" shy of a 100% size increase. Your resolution is about 20% higher, so (sort of) 20% smaller. So yeah I'd say a bit bigger... 60%-ish.
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The scaling is tricky. I assume you mean windows scaling in the UI. It doesn't really change the resolution when you do scaling. It mostly makes icons and text bigger. On a 40" compared to 24" you're only going to be 4" shy of a 100% size increase. Your resolution is about 20% higher, so (sort of) 20% smaller. So yeah I'd say a bit bigger... 60%-ish.
Please take a look at this image: https://www.imghippo.com/i/VBMaG1719656408.png[^] Here you can see the difference in my current monitors from 100% to 125%. I am trying to figure out the size the text will have in my new monitor... At the end, I can get a 5120x1440@60Hz 49" monitor with the exact setup as another 5120x2160@120Hz 40" monitor (both ultrawide). The former seems better because I will have bigger fonts than now without scaling and it's cheaper. The latter will have more vertical space, will have to be scaled and will be more expensive.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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I need to figure out the size of the text I will get at a 125% scaling with the new 40" 5120x2150@120Hz with 138.92ppi monitor compared to what I do have now at 100% in a 24" 2560x1440@60hz with 122.38ppi. I've tried to search for websites that show you a picture with text at different scaling and resolutions but have not been able to find it. I am afraid I am buying through professional means that does not allow returning the goods unless they show any kind of malfunction.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
oh ok, my question was ambiguous, let me re-phrase. Why do you need such a large monitor? :)
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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oh ok, my question was ambiguous, let me re-phrase. Why do you need such a large monitor? :)
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
To make lots of programs! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Seriously, now I have 2 x 24" QHD monitors and it works well, excepting text is slightly too small. I was thinking on getting two new monitors to replace mine, but after seeing the new ultrawides offer IMST (a hardware way to make the PC believe there are two monitors connected) and seeing lots of people were recommending ultrawides I thought of getting one as in the worst case I would have 2 separate monitors as I am used to. Then I thought of getting one DQHD 49" monitor which is exactly the same than mounting two 27" QHD monitors side by side. And Ended thinking hte best would be the new 40" Dell U4025QW monitor that sports 5120×2160@120Hz in an ultrawide format 21:9 ratio.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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To make lots of programs! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Seriously, now I have 2 x 24" QHD monitors and it works well, excepting text is slightly too small. I was thinking on getting two new monitors to replace mine, but after seeing the new ultrawides offer IMST (a hardware way to make the PC believe there are two monitors connected) and seeing lots of people were recommending ultrawides I thought of getting one as in the worst case I would have 2 separate monitors as I am used to. Then I thought of getting one DQHD 49" monitor which is exactly the same than mounting two 27" QHD monitors side by side. And Ended thinking hte best would be the new 40" Dell U4025QW monitor that sports 5120×2160@120Hz in an ultrawide format 21:9 ratio.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
okay, got it. You want more screen real-estate. I simply cannot live without 2 displays.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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I am amazed I have written that... ^^¡ Of course you are right, no pixel size change. I meant the font size at 125% in the new display should be a little bit bigger than what I do have now at my QHD 24" displays... Do you think that is right? Thanks!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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Hello all, Ready to pull the trigger and get a 5k2k 40" monitor. Now I own two 24" QHD monitors which have the text slightly small, that would be 2560x1440@60hz with 122.38ppi. Currently what can be seen in my monitors at 100% and at 125%: https://www.imghippo.com/i/VBMaG1719656408.png[^] The monitor I am about to buy gives 5120x2150@120Hz with 138.92ppi. If I scale it to 125% (windows UI scaling)... would it become 4096x1720@120Hz with 111.06ppi? <-- that's wrong, of course pixel density won't change. But font size at 125% here should be a little bit bigger than the font I have now in my current 24" QHD monitors right? Thank you very much in advance!
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
In Windows 11 (and probably 10) there is an Accessiblity setting for text size which has a slider so you can adjust to any % not just 125% etc. If you have Windows, try it out on your current monitors and see what you think. IIRC fonts in the Windows UI use the same number of pixels for text regardless of the monitor resolution making the text will smaller on the new monitor, so it might be possible to get a reasonable idea of what you will see by simply sitting a little further back from your current monitors to see something comparable to what the new monitor would show you at the normal distance.
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In Windows 11 (and probably 10) there is an Accessiblity setting for text size which has a slider so you can adjust to any % not just 125% etc. If you have Windows, try it out on your current monitors and see what you think. IIRC fonts in the Windows UI use the same number of pixels for text regardless of the monitor resolution making the text will smaller on the new monitor, so it might be possible to get a reasonable idea of what you will see by simply sitting a little further back from your current monitors to see something comparable to what the new monitor would show you at the normal distance.
Note that it matters at which stage the scaling is done. I believe that the Accessibility setting applies before the TrueType drawing of the text is done, so it is equivalent to the application programmer having specified, say, a 25% higher point size, and the TrueType drawing routine will use 25% more pixels (in each direction). If you fake the screen resolution, telling Windows that the resolution information is has obtained is wrong; it is actually 20% less, then TrueType will draw the characters with 20% fewer pixels, believing that each pixel is larger (since there are fewer of them). The low level driver or the screen itself will expand every 4 pixels to 5, for the image to fill the entire screen. This will enlarge the characters by 25%, but the 4-to-5 'smearing' of pixels will reduce sharpness, as most physical pixels will be a mixture of logical pixels (i.e. those coming from the TT renderer). I guess the visible unsharpening is far less with today's high resolution screens than in the days when TT was introduced and 1024 by 768 was considered top notch in screen resolution. The effect didn't disappear, even if we take less notice of it.
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Please take a look at this image: https://www.imghippo.com/i/VBMaG1719656408.png[^] Here you can see the difference in my current monitors from 100% to 125%. I am trying to figure out the size the text will have in my new monitor... At the end, I can get a 5120x1440@60Hz 49" monitor with the exact setup as another 5120x2160@120Hz 40" monitor (both ultrawide). The former seems better because I will have bigger fonts than now without scaling and it's cheaper. The latter will have more vertical space, will have to be scaled and will be more expensive.
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
I don't think you'll need to scale the 40" to have bigger text than your 24". The resolution is increasing, which does make text smaller, but the larger screen size makes up for it. I used an innebriated napkin to math things and rought-shot about a 60% size increase if you run at the resolutions with the scaling at 125%. I think it will still be slightly larger text on the 40" than the 24" even if you didn't use scaling and ran them at their native resolutions. FWIW, you also don't have to use the monitor in its native resolution. You can totally change that 5120x1440 in windows settings to run at much lower (larger) resolutions. That's different than scaling, and maybe arguably better. It just depends on a bunch of factors. With the gargantuan ones, people are generally going for more screen real estate and lower resolution (or larger text) sometimes is antithetical to that.
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Note that it matters at which stage the scaling is done. I believe that the Accessibility setting applies before the TrueType drawing of the text is done, so it is equivalent to the application programmer having specified, say, a 25% higher point size, and the TrueType drawing routine will use 25% more pixels (in each direction). If you fake the screen resolution, telling Windows that the resolution information is has obtained is wrong; it is actually 20% less, then TrueType will draw the characters with 20% fewer pixels, believing that each pixel is larger (since there are fewer of them). The low level driver or the screen itself will expand every 4 pixels to 5, for the image to fill the entire screen. This will enlarge the characters by 25%, but the 4-to-5 'smearing' of pixels will reduce sharpness, as most physical pixels will be a mixture of logical pixels (i.e. those coming from the TT renderer). I guess the visible unsharpening is far less with today's high resolution screens than in the days when TT was introduced and 1024 by 768 was considered top notch in screen resolution. The effect didn't disappear, even if we take less notice of it.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
Just for clarification, does that mean my suggestion would not produce a comparable view?
