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    I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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      I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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      raddevus wrote:

      It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

      Try doing it for 30 years and then get back to us on your success.

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        I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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        Does it have a point 4: quit your job and find a new one when you discover your boss is unresponsive to points 1-3, and is just another 'money-rules-everything' person?

        Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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          I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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          4. Respect everyone's pronouns. (mine are moron and idiot).

          >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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          • raddevusR raddevus

            I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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            ...the advertisement CORRECTLY states that "it is raining in Seattle...." such advertisement is traditional (wink wink ) means of discouraging influx... without being rude it sort of works...I still have web feet Since I am from Missouri ... show me a NORMAL person who does NOT go to work PRIMARILY to stay alive all other comes with territory - "loving" the boring job being at the bottom... I believe some educated philosopher stated that, and since I am an OF, I forgot the name...

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              raddevus wrote:

              It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

              Try doing it for 30 years and then get back to us on your success.

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              jschell wrote:

              Try doing it for 30 years and then get back to us on your success.

              Career been going for 33 years now. So far, so good. :)

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                Does it have a point 4: quit your job and find a new one when you discover your boss is unresponsive to points 1-3, and is just another 'money-rules-everything' person?

                Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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                David O'Neil wrote:

                quit your job and find a new one when you discover your boss is unresponsive to points 1-3, and is just another 'money-rules-everything' person

                It doesn't have that step, but that is step 0 at 99% of the companies out there. :laugh:

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                  ...the advertisement CORRECTLY states that "it is raining in Seattle...." such advertisement is traditional (wink wink ) means of discouraging influx... without being rude it sort of works...I still have web feet Since I am from Missouri ... show me a NORMAL person who does NOT go to work PRIMARILY to stay alive all other comes with territory - "loving" the boring job being at the bottom... I believe some educated philosopher stated that, and since I am an OF, I forgot the name...

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                  jana_hus wrote:

                  show me a NORMAL person who does NOT go to work PRIMARILY to stay alive

                  Yes, I definitely fit into that category. But, if you only work to survive, you are probably living very little. Of course, there are many ways to look at work: 1 - Work to get money so you can do what you want. 2 - Work at things you like to do but don't pay as much but lets you "work" at what you like to do. 3 - Sit around and live off other people's work. :rolleyes: 4 - Any kind of grift -- unfortunately it still takes some "work" though. :laugh:

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                  • raddevusR raddevus

                    I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day

                    This also holds true on going on dates and dealing with people in general. So many peeps get focused on crap like "omg, what's the best pickup line" blah blah blah. But, their energy is crap and they didn't brush their teeth. :laugh: :laugh: The truth is, how you say something and present your aura is 1,000 times more powerful than what you say. People call it vibes or just clicking. Energy likes like energy. People just wanna enjoy life experiences. Crazy I know. :laugh: :laugh:

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                      ...the advertisement CORRECTLY states that "it is raining in Seattle...." such advertisement is traditional (wink wink ) means of discouraging influx... without being rude it sort of works...I still have web feet Since I am from Missouri ... show me a NORMAL person who does NOT go to work PRIMARILY to stay alive all other comes with territory - "loving" the boring job being at the bottom... I believe some educated philosopher stated that, and since I am an OF, I forgot the name...

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                      jana_hus wrote:

                      show me a NORMAL person who does NOT go to work PRIMARILY to stay alive

                      Humans need to do something with their time. Even if it's just playing video games all day. We have to do something to escape boredom. Extending that concept to help others as well as ourselves is all work is. There's no need to hate it. Perhaps you don't like the hours, ok... get it. Perhaps you don't like the industry... get it. So find something you like to do can kill two birds with one STONE.

                      jana_hus wrote:

                      all other comes with territory - "loving" the boring job being at the bottom...

                      As long as you have that attitude you'll always be at the bottom. I've hired and managed people, and I promise nobody wants to be around Mr. Poopy. You get a lot of good things from work, you're learning skills and hopefully make friends. Sure, not every day will be great, but I'll just say there are some peeps I've met through work that I'm so grateful for getting the chance to know.

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                      • raddevusR raddevus

                        jana_hus wrote:

                        show me a NORMAL person who does NOT go to work PRIMARILY to stay alive

                        Yes, I definitely fit into that category. But, if you only work to survive, you are probably living very little. Of course, there are many ways to look at work: 1 - Work to get money so you can do what you want. 2 - Work at things you like to do but don't pay as much but lets you "work" at what you like to do. 3 - Sit around and live off other people's work. :rolleyes: 4 - Any kind of grift -- unfortunately it still takes some "work" though. :laugh:

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                        Since he works at OnlyFans as a dude, I guess I understand his trepidation. :laugh: :laugh:

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                          raddevus wrote:

                          Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day

                          This also holds true on going on dates and dealing with people in general. So many peeps get focused on crap like "omg, what's the best pickup line" blah blah blah. But, their energy is crap and they didn't brush their teeth. :laugh: :laugh: The truth is, how you say something and present your aura is 1,000 times more powerful than what you say. People call it vibes or just clicking. Energy likes like energy. People just wanna enjoy life experiences. Crazy I know. :laugh: :laugh:

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          I agree. Honesty and sincerity are often the best approaches in dealing with people (or least some good ones). Tactfulness is also a good thing especially in business.

                          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                            raddevus wrote:

                            Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day

                            This also holds true on going on dates and dealing with people in general. So many peeps get focused on crap like "omg, what's the best pickup line" blah blah blah. But, their energy is crap and they didn't brush their teeth. :laugh: :laugh: The truth is, how you say something and present your aura is 1,000 times more powerful than what you say. People call it vibes or just clicking. Energy likes like energy. People just wanna enjoy life experiences. Crazy I know. :laugh: :laugh:

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                            The truth is, how you say something and present your aura is 1,000 times more powerful than what you say. For sure...than you get raked over the coal when your presentation "aura" does not jive with expectations. In my world it is called prejudice judgement. Unfortunately not limited to presentation. And you are also correct that some humans do that from boredom. As an OF, I prefer "if you cannot say anything nice - just shut up" So with toastmasters "sandwich " approach : irregardless of all of this , have a swell day and enjoy life as it comes.

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                              The truth is, how you say something and present your aura is 1,000 times more powerful than what you say. For sure...than you get raked over the coal when your presentation "aura" does not jive with expectations. In my world it is called prejudice judgement. Unfortunately not limited to presentation. And you are also correct that some humans do that from boredom. As an OF, I prefer "if you cannot say anything nice - just shut up" So with toastmasters "sandwich " approach : irregardless of all of this , have a swell day and enjoy life as it comes.

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                              jana_hus wrote:

                              For sure...than you get raked over the coal when your presentation "aura" does not jive with expectations.

                              Seems to me like deep down you want to be positive, but your posts still have a lot of deep rooted negativity man. If you give a presentation and it bombs, but you're a good, genuine person... 100% of people will understand. If you bomb it and tell them all to kiss your arse, well that's a different story. :laugh: I dunno where all these negative thoughts are coming from, but you may wanna go be honest with a winner and tell them you're trying to retrain your mind. Losers aren't gonna help.

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                              • raddevusR raddevus

                                I completed the book, Fish![^]: A Proven Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, recommended by @code-witch in this thread[^]. Over all I liked the book. I just wish instead of teaching via the story narrative it would’ve just been a straight up list of ideas. Here are the main points: 1. Bring energy / good attitude to your work every day 2. Play (at your work) Have a sense of wonder about what you’re doing 3. Make their day — when you work with others, try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things. Try to amaze others. It’s work, but have as much fun as you can. Game every challenge you come in contact with. These aren’t always easy but I try to follow them every day and even when tasks are boring I try to do them better than they’ve ever been done. It’s odd that putting all your energy into boring tasks actually makes them seem better.

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                                raddevus wrote:

                                try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things.Try to amaze others

                                Maybe I'm reading this wrongly but isn't that the very definition of a showoff? I'm fine with the other two points but this one, I would replace with "Be open with others. Explain your reasoning but be willing to accept theirs".

                                Mircea

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                                • Mircea NeacsuM Mircea Neacsu

                                  raddevus wrote:

                                  try to give them a sense of wonder and amazement at how you do things.Try to amaze others

                                  Maybe I'm reading this wrongly but isn't that the very definition of a showoff? I'm fine with the other two points but this one, I would replace with "Be open with others. Explain your reasoning but be willing to accept theirs".

                                  Mircea

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                                  Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                                  Maybe I'm reading this wrongly but isn't that the very definition of a showoff?

                                  Yep, you're reading it wrongly. A show-off would be a person who "wants to prove only s/he can do the thing". This is more about being so excited & interested in the subject that when you do things you experience a "sense of wonder" and are excited to share with others. Think of the experience of a science show where the "teacher" fills a balloon with hydrogen then ignites it. Not a show-off but enjoying the experience of others experiencing the science. Of course you have to be open to accept others input. The point of the book is that everyone is exciting about what they're learning, not _who_ learned it first.

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