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  • J J Dunlap

    Poor design decisions early on make for major problems later. There are many things in Windows that are poorly designed. I hope that they do better in Longhorn. As far as the MS guys not being visionaries, they're all individual people, and some are visionaries, and some aren't.

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    jdunlap wrote: Poor design decisions early on make for major problems later. There are many things in Windows that are poorly designed. I hope that they do better in Longhorn. As far as the MS guys not being visionaries, they're all individual people, and some are visionaries, and some aren't. Longhorn uses NTFS (WinFS is only an add-on to improve the search feature). Because of the many limitations of NTFS (I have cited the one about path length limitation, but you can read more elsewhere about the issues) ; because NTFS was designed in early 90s where demand for audio visuals were not exactly the same ; because 80-120GB hard drives are common these days, and probably we'll be playing with 1TB hard drives in 2008 ; because requirements are different since the use is different ; then yes, you are right, <sarcasm> MS guys are really visionaires and are proving they adapt quite well the changes in environments, just as when BillGates said in 1994 that he didn't give a shit about the internet.</sarcasm>. PS : unlike you said "some are visionaries some are not", there can't be such thing at Microsoft, this would imply that : - there is no design review (a design review would automatically filter out the isolated issues) - what are all the lead product managers, product managers, lead program managers, program managers, lead software design engineers, software design engineers paid for ? - there is no cross-team work. Obvious at this point. - there is no code review - what are all the lead product managers, product managers, lead program managers, program managers, lead software design engineers, software design engineers paid for ? - there is no QA - what are the QA paid for ? - what are the user groups for ? - what are the beta testers for ? - last but not least, what about customer satisfaction? As soon as people at Microsoft will start getting paid based on customer satisfaction, I can tell you the guys will behave differently. They just need a baffle.


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      jdunlap wrote: Poor design decisions early on make for major problems later. There are many things in Windows that are poorly designed. I hope that they do better in Longhorn. As far as the MS guys not being visionaries, they're all individual people, and some are visionaries, and some aren't. Longhorn uses NTFS (WinFS is only an add-on to improve the search feature). Because of the many limitations of NTFS (I have cited the one about path length limitation, but you can read more elsewhere about the issues) ; because NTFS was designed in early 90s where demand for audio visuals were not exactly the same ; because 80-120GB hard drives are common these days, and probably we'll be playing with 1TB hard drives in 2008 ; because requirements are different since the use is different ; then yes, you are right, <sarcasm> MS guys are really visionaires and are proving they adapt quite well the changes in environments, just as when BillGates said in 1994 that he didn't give a shit about the internet.</sarcasm>. PS : unlike you said "some are visionaries some are not", there can't be such thing at Microsoft, this would imply that : - there is no design review (a design review would automatically filter out the isolated issues) - what are all the lead product managers, product managers, lead program managers, program managers, lead software design engineers, software design engineers paid for ? - there is no cross-team work. Obvious at this point. - there is no code review - what are all the lead product managers, product managers, lead program managers, program managers, lead software design engineers, software design engineers paid for ? - there is no QA - what are the QA paid for ? - what are the user groups for ? - what are the beta testers for ? - last but not least, what about customer satisfaction? As soon as people at Microsoft will start getting paid based on customer satisfaction, I can tell you the guys will behave differently. They just need a baffle.


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      Oh good grief. If there was 1% of merit in all of the things you claim, Bill Gates would be a gas station attendant, not the chief software architect at Microsoft and the richest f**king man in the world. As much as any of you MS-bashers would like to claim otherwise, Microsoft deals with the same market as everybody else. The fact that they have dealt with it better than anyone else tells me that, somewhere along the line, they're doing things right. I didn't say they were ethical, nice, or the most technically proficient.


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        Oh good grief. If there was 1% of merit in all of the things you claim, Bill Gates would be a gas station attendant, not the chief software architect at Microsoft and the richest f**king man in the world. As much as any of you MS-bashers would like to claim otherwise, Microsoft deals with the same market as everybody else. The fact that they have dealt with it better than anyone else tells me that, somewhere along the line, they're doing things right. I didn't say they were ethical, nice, or the most technically proficient.


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        So you don't know what is a "first mover" advantage, and you don't see the lore of free-markets. Definitely Poor.


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