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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    I live just north of Vänern. I guess I'd have to go at least 900-1000 km before I'd be able to see it, which is quite a distance! I wish I had lots of money though, because I'd much rather see it from space.. :cool: -- Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large.

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    Megan Forbes
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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I live just north of Vänern w00t, so I can picture where you are then, what a gorgeous lake! :cool: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I wish I had lots of money though, because I'd much rather see it from space.. Is this possible? I thought it was something to do with the earths atmosphere at that latitude which allowed it to be visible from there?


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      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I live just north of Vänern w00t, so I can picture where you are then, what a gorgeous lake! :cool: Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I wish I had lots of money though, because I'd much rather see it from space.. Is this possible? I thought it was something to do with the earths atmosphere at that latitude which allowed it to be visible from there?


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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Megan Forbes wrote: Is this possible? I thought it was something to do with the earths atmosphere at that latitude which allowed it to be visible from there? I'm not sure, but I believe you can. If I've understood the cause of the aurora correctly, the light you see emitted are the effects of excited electrons releasing energy. Remember electron energy quantums? L-, K-, M- shells, etc?. Anyway, when an electron is de-excited, it releases the energy difference between the previous and the current quantum level. The energy difference yields a photon with a wave length consistent with the energy difference. (Hence different colors for different ions, because different matter behave different structure in their electron shells, and thus excited electrons release different amounts of energy, which means different wavelengths of the photons/light emitted). Anyway, the released photon is sent in an arbitrary direction, and thus the light distribution should be uniform in all directions (for many occurences of released photons!). That combined with the fact that earths magnetosphere is not within an event horizon (i.e. the point of no return of a black hole), photons should be emitted into space too. Hence, it should be possible to see it from space as well. I also know that satellites are used to measure auroras, so that should also indicate that they are visible from space. A photo from space (preferrably taken by me!) would be the ultimate proof :cool: -- Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large.

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      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

        Karlstad isn't very far north you know. Even in Östersund you don't see it.. I think. :~ -- Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large.

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        You mean you don't have colder than -10, -15 down there? OMG... Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Even in Östersund you don't see it.. I think. I think Abisko is the right place to stop by. Beautiful nature! Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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        • M Megan Forbes

          It might be worth spending 3 months somewhere really cold and northern to see this[^].


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          KaRl
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          - added to the TODO list. Thanks! :cool:


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          • M Megan Forbes

            It might be worth spending 3 months somewhere really cold and northern to see this[^].


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            Konstantin Vasserman
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            Awesome! Speaking of photography, did you see this http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/3920[^]

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            • M Megan Forbes

              It might be worth spending 3 months somewhere really cold and northern to see this[^].


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              Meg's World - Blog

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              The 'Northern Lights' are often quite visible here in southern Ontario in Canada. Just two weeks ago while on holidays at the cottage, there was quite a fantastic display for several hours one evening. Unfortunately, you have to be away from the city in order to really appreciate the display. Before the really cold weather comes along in November, there will probably be some other displays as well. Next time I try to get some pics for you. :) Chris Meech If you spin a Chinese person around, do they become dis-oriented?

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                You mean you don't have colder than -10, -15 down there? OMG... Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Even in Östersund you don't see it.. I think. I think Abisko is the right place to stop by. Beautiful nature! Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Rickard Andersson18 wrote: You mean you don't have colder than -10, -15 down there? OMG... Sure we do, but auroras don't depend on temperature. At least not ground temperature. The temperature in the magnetosphere is very most likely either much hotter than on the ground of much colder. I don't know which it is, but I do know the temperature drops and rises at different levels in the atmosphere. I had a link to a temperature diagram somewhere.. Now, the aurora may depend indirectly on the temperature in the magnetosphere, as temperature is basically just a measurement of molecular movement speed. While the molecular movement may be a dependency of the aurora, the main dependency is the concentration and energy of electrons. The right conditions for auroras are around the poles, which is the main reason why you don't see auroras at the equator. :) Hey, why am I telling you this? Have you been skipping physics classes? :suss: :-D Rickard Andersson18 wrote: I think Abisko is the right place to stop by. Beautiful nature! If there's an aurora in the sky, my eyes wouldn't be directed below the horizon.. ;) -- Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large.

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                • M Megan Forbes

                  Is every Swede on this site going to make me drool with jealousy by telling me how they've seen this beautiful event and I haven't?! :-D


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                  Well, now that you brought it up, I'll have to tell you it's a really cool phenomenon to watch ;P I have seen it several times at Stockholm+ latitude. But it becomes more frequent and spectacular the further north you go. Cheers, Fredrik
                  "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas."

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                  • R Rickard Andersson20

                    In the (cold) winter here in Sweden I can travel about 300km (Kiruna) north to be sure to see this amazing phenomenon! But I can for sure see it where I live also a cold winter day. From Stockholm to Kiruna, about 1310km. :) Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                    Megan Forbes
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                    So when you're that far north does it happen almost every day, or more like once a week? (sorry for the ignorance :-O )


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                    • F Fredrik Skog

                      Well, now that you brought it up, I'll have to tell you it's a really cool phenomenon to watch ;P I have seen it several times at Stockholm+ latitude. But it becomes more frequent and spectacular the further north you go. Cheers, Fredrik
                      "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas."

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                      Megan Forbes
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                      This is starting to seem like an exclusive club which I'm determined to join :laugh: :-D


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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        Karlstad isn't very far north you know. Even in Östersund you don't see it.. I think. :~ -- Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large.

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                        Fredrik Skog
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                        It can actually be seen in mid-Sweden sometime, I've seen it myself. You have to get away from the bright city lights. But of course the chances are waaaay better up north. Cheers, Fredrik
                        "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas."

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                        • C Chris Meech

                          The 'Northern Lights' are often quite visible here in southern Ontario in Canada. Just two weeks ago while on holidays at the cottage, there was quite a fantastic display for several hours one evening. Unfortunately, you have to be away from the city in order to really appreciate the display. Before the really cold weather comes along in November, there will probably be some other displays as well. Next time I try to get some pics for you. :) Chris Meech If you spin a Chinese person around, do they become dis-oriented?

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                          Chris Meech wrote: Next time I try to get some pics for you :-D Thanks! It must be awesome, lovely to hear that people who live where it occurs frequently don't take it for granted.


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                          • K Konstantin Vasserman

                            Awesome! Speaking of photography, did you see this http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/3920[^]

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                            It's a beauty isn't it! Still, I'd probably go for the 300D for the same price, simply because of the huge range of Canon lenses it can take.


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                            • M Megan Forbes

                              It might be worth spending 3 months somewhere really cold and northern to see this[^].


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                              dandy72
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                              > It might be worth spending 3 months somewhere really cold and northern to > see this Nah, I've occasionally seen them; they're not worth spending 3 months in the cold. Oh, wait, I just realized I've been in freakin' Canada all my life... :doh:

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                                This is starting to seem like an exclusive club which I'm determined to join :laugh: :-D


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                                Fredrik Skog
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                                Ssssch, we want to keep the club exclusive... :cool: Cheers, Fredrik
                                "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas."

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                                • M Megan Forbes

                                  So when you're that far north does it happen almost every day, or more like once a week? (sorry for the ignorance :-O )


                                  Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
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                                  Nah, not really... not where I live but in Abisko and other places in the very north of Sweden it happens more often. Not really sure how often. Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                    Rickard Andersson18 wrote: You mean you don't have colder than -10, -15 down there? OMG... Sure we do, but auroras don't depend on temperature. At least not ground temperature. The temperature in the magnetosphere is very most likely either much hotter than on the ground of much colder. I don't know which it is, but I do know the temperature drops and rises at different levels in the atmosphere. I had a link to a temperature diagram somewhere.. Now, the aurora may depend indirectly on the temperature in the magnetosphere, as temperature is basically just a measurement of molecular movement speed. While the molecular movement may be a dependency of the aurora, the main dependency is the concentration and energy of electrons. The right conditions for auroras are around the poles, which is the main reason why you don't see auroras at the equator. :) Hey, why am I telling you this? Have you been skipping physics classes? :suss: :-D Rickard Andersson18 wrote: I think Abisko is the right place to stop by. Beautiful nature! If there's an aurora in the sky, my eyes wouldn't be directed below the horizon.. ;) -- Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large.

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                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Hey, why am I telling you this? Have you been skipping physics classes? Not really, but it wasn't my fave class... :~ Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                                      It's a beauty isn't it! Still, I'd probably go for the 300D for the same price, simply because of the huge range of Canon lenses it can take.


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                                      Rickard Andersson20
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                                      Me myself will go for a Canon 10D after I've finished doing "lumpen" (military shit course in 10 months which I don't know how to say in english). Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                                        Me myself will go for a Canon 10D after I've finished doing "lumpen" (military shit course in 10 months which I don't know how to say in english). Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318 Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                                        Megan Forbes
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                                        Do you have to do this? In 6 months the 10D successor will be out :cool:


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                                        • M Megan Forbes

                                          Is every Swede on this site going to make me drool with jealousy by telling me how they've seen this beautiful event and I haven't?! :-D


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                                          Photography - The product of my passion        

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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          You could stage your own in the garage with a Tesla coil - call it the Aurora Forbealis and invite the neighbors in!:-D

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